Lamarcus Joyner (DB New York Jets)

[Redhawk]

Broward High Schools | MiamiHerald.com

While many parts of the country attempted to recover from the National Signing Day hangover, South Florida found a way to deal with the letdown of the month-long frenzy by rolling out the next wave of talent for colleges and universities to feast their collective eyes on.

Last Sunday, about 75 of the next generation of talent headed to Flamingo Park on Miami Beach to try out for the South Florida Express 7-on-7 team that will head to the University of South Florida on March 14-15 for an event that will showcase some of the best teams from Florida, Georgia and Alabama.

While there were a number of stars on hand for the first day of practice, none captured the attention more than cornerback Lamarcus Joyner. Currently at Southwest, rumors have this 5-9, 170-pounder making a move to Columbus, which is great for his education, but as far as being recruited, he is already on every list from USC to Miami -- and everywhere in between.

Joyner was my No. 1 prospect in Miami-Dade County heading into spring for good reason. His speed, ability to cover, hit and play on both sides of the ball gives him a huge advantage. He was the show for the Eagles last year, and one of the reasons the team had its best season ever.

''I love competition,'' Joyner said. ``being out here with all these great athletes helps me elevate my game. That's what it's all about.''
Last summer Joyner told me in a video interview he has always been an FSU fan, and as of last Sunday, that feeling about the Seminoles has not changed. He reminds me of a former Seminole, Terrell Buckley, who went on to have a tremendous collegiate and pro career.

 

[genron187]

In his videos is he sometimes wearing 30 and other times wearing 3?

That school doesnt care about football. ITs the same season. They have a #3 in the purple/white and white/purple jerseys, no #3 in the black jerseys

 

[genron187]

OK OK, can someone please explain the fear again of being in the cards for LJ. I have read the posts here and on the scout.com board and i still dont understand. Im excited about OSU. LJ is as well. I mean, it's OSU isn't it. Or is there another O-state somewhere. Thats what Alabama is going to come down here with, "Hey, it's Bama baby." Nough said. Da U, Gators, LSU, Seminoles, Notre Dame....Thee Ohio State university. And you all do not think OSU cant walk into any home and just state it's name and not have pull. I'm I missing something here. I hate the Buffalo Bills and I never use to follow OSU, but I always knew Antonie Winfield was from OSU. All those game changing picks he use to have against the Dolphins. And other quality DB's. I know for a fact that those Defense coaches know what they are doing, one of the best in the country. Look yall, many coaches are coing in here saying Frank is going to be a star and make an immediate impact and he'll start as a FR and will get his name put out there and he'll go to league earlier with us, and etc... OSU hasnt said that and he knows he can do some of those things at OSU as well as any other school. I asked coach Haynes the first time I spoke with him were they serious with their offer and not just throwing it out there. He said this is OHIO STATE, we dont just throw offers, and if we recuit down here we only go after the best. After that he showed in twice and then the thrid time with JT. All of this in a 4 week span. I'm extremely happy the coaches don't show the same sentiment as alot of your fans.
lol, you all are really die hard fans, but thats why I understand. I was hurt when Patrick Johnson committed to LSU.... I feel ya pain.

 

[Buckeyecty4]

It's not that we dont feel we are on the level as every one of those teams. It's just working off past history. You got the #1 player in Florida, who in all updates says he loves all three Florida teams. I actually think we have a real good shot with LJ, but you have to understand we surf the net and hear FSU fans basically saying he's a lock, silent committ, will make it official at Seminole Showcase, etc.. and personally I assume they must have some source or someone telling them that..

As I said, I think if LJ comes up here for the Spring Game and follows up with an official in the fall for a game, I'll feel real good about our chances, but history has usually indicated that it's hard for any school to go down to Florida and pull a top prospect who admittingly has a Florida school as his "dream school"... There is some confidence since some top prospects seem to leave the state each yr.. we've pulled some, SC has, Bama has done, etc... but we know it's gonna be a fight, that's why I think you see alot of fans hesitant to believe we'll be the final destination.

I'm just appreciative that the kid has done his homework, knows about our DB history and tradition, and is excited about taking a visit.

 

[Bucks21]

OK OK, can someone please explain the fear again of being in the cards for LJ. I have read the posts here and on the scout.com board and i still dont understand. Im excited about OSU. LJ is as well. I mean, it's OSU isn't it. Or is there another O-state somewhere. Thats what Alabama is going to come down here with, "Hey, it's Bama baby." Nough said. Da U, Gators, LSU, Seminoles, Notre Dame....Thee Ohio State university. And you all do not think OSU cant walk into any home and just state it's name and not have pull. I'm I missing something here. I hate the Buffalo Bills and I never use to follow OSU, but I always knew Antonie Winfield was from OSU. All those game changing picks he use to have against the Dolphins. And other quality DB's. I know for a fact that those Defense coaches know what they are doing, one of the best in the country. Look yall, many coaches are coing in here saying Frank is going to be a star and make an immediate impact and he'll start as a FR and will get his name put out there and he'll go to league earlier with us, and etc... OSU hasnt said that and he knows he can do some of those things at OSU as well as any other school. I asked coach Haynes the first time I spoke with him were they serious with their offer and not just throwing it out there. He said this is OHIO STATE, we dont just throw offers, and if we recuit down here we only go after the best. After that he showed in twice and then the thrid time with JT. All of this in a 4 week span. I'm extremely happy the coaches don't show the same sentiment as alot of your fans.
lol, you all are really die hard fans, but thats why I understand. I was hurt when Patrick Johnson committed to LSU.... I feel ya pain.

stay off the scout board would be a good start

 

[berryfan]

It's not that we dont feel we are on the level as every one of those teams. It's just working off past history. You got the #1 player in Florida, who in all updates says he loves all three Florida teams. I actually think we have a real good shot with LJ, but you have to understand we surf the net and hear FSU fans basically saying he's a lock, silent committ, will make it official at Seminole Showcase, etc.. and personally I assume they must have some source or someone telling them that..

As I said, I think if LJ comes up here for the Spring Game and follows up with an official in the fall for a game, I'll feel real good about our chances, but history has usually indicated that it's hard for any school to go down to Florida and pull a top prospect who admittingly has a Florida school as his "dream school"... There is some confidence since some top prospects seem to leave the state each yr.. we've pulled some, SC has, Bama has done, etc... but we know it's gonna be a fight, that's why I think you see alot of fans hesitant to believe we'll be the final destination.

I'm just appreciative that the kid has done his homework, knows about our DB history and tradition, and is excited about taking a visit.

The FSU fans have nothing (they're probably the worst of the big 3 in Florida, sorry if I stepped on someone's toes out there in Internet land). That same sort of talk goes on Gator boards and even Miami ones. I remember that Patrick Johnson to LSU and how it devastated Miami fans. They thought it was a lock and stopped listening to Johnson himself and then it came back to bite them in the butt. Just because the kid is the #1 pick overall out of Florida or even at his position, doesn't mean he is a lock to go to the big 3. I don't think anyone read any of my posts.

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

OK OK, can someone please explain the fear again of being in the cards for LJ. I have read the posts here and on the scout.com board and i still dont understand. Im excited about OSU. LJ is as well. I mean, it's OSU isn't it. Or is there another O-state somewhere. Thats what Alabama is going to come down here with, "Hey, it's Bama baby." Nough said. Da U, Gators, LSU, Seminoles, Notre Dame....Thee Ohio State university. And you all do not think OSU cant walk into any home and just state it's name and not have pull. I'm I missing something here. I hate the Buffalo Bills and I never use to follow OSU, but I always knew Antonie Winfield was from OSU. All those game changing picks he use to have against the Dolphins. And other quality DB's. I know for a fact that those Defense coaches know what they are doing, one of the best in the country. Look yall, many coaches are coing in here saying Frank is going to be a star and make an immediate impact and he'll start as a FR and will get his name put out there and he'll go to league earlier with us, and etc... OSU hasnt said that and he knows he can do some of those things at OSU as well as any other school. I asked coach Haynes the first time I spoke with him were they serious with their offer and not just throwing it out there. He said this is OHIO STATE, we dont just throw offers, and if we recuit down here we only go after the best. After that he showed in twice and then the thrid time with JT. All of this in a 4 week span. I'm extremely happy the coaches don't show the same sentiment as alot of your fans.
lol, you all are really die hard fans, but thats why I understand. I was hurt when Patrick Johnson committed to LSU.... I feel ya pain.

I think we're just having trouble explaining ourselves here. No doubt it is The Ohio State University. That name allows the coaches into recruiting as much as any other brand in college football. There is no doubt about Ohio State's ability to recruit and develop all world athletes.

I don't go to scout so I can't speak about them. There is no fear here. None. There are just certain types of recruits that end up at Ohio State. Most of those players live to be Buckeyes. Take Michael Brewster, could have gone anywhere in the country, but he knew he wanted to be a Buckeye so he committed before the end of his Junior year. For whatever reason most of Ohio State's elite recruits are much like that. For whatever reason guys that have heavy interest in Ohio State and other schools and announce on signing day end up picking the other school. We suspect its because of the approach of the staff.

I hesitate to put so much more for the risk of offending you. OSU has missed plenty of guys on signing day, especially out of state guys. The fact of the matter still is OSU is still easily one of the most talented teams in the country. The suspicion of most Buckeye fans is if LJ were to commit to the Buckeyes it would be before signing day.

We have no doubt that the JT, and staff will put on the full court press, but in their own unique way.

I believe Buckeye fans should take pride in the manner in which Jim Tressel and the staff recruit players.

 

[leroyjenkins]

So I guess what genron and berryfan are saying that is if you want to post your expert opinion about how we have no chance or you dont think we'll land LJ, go type it somewhere else please. We know what were up against, we know the history. Our coaches and staff are fighters and are second to none. If it is possible to bring LJ north, theyll do everything they can to make it happen!!





Roo-dee Gah-lean-doh

 

[berryfan]

So I guess what genron and berryfan are saying that is if you want to post your expert opinion about how we have no chance or you dont think we'll land LJ, go type it somewhere else please. We know what were up against, we know the history. Our coaches and staff are fighters and are second to none. If it is possible to bring LJ north, theyll do everything they can to make it happen!!

I just know how the big 3 in Florida operate. There's always this bit of feeling on their part that because a guy is from Florida that they don't need to press as hard, and that's been burning them time and time again. It takes a very smart recruiter to realize that you have to treat every young man with respect and not assume anything. I still hear talk down here about how the big 3 are looking at other big DBs (I talked about that at the beginning of this thread). If they want to relax a bit on LJ, that's their prerogative, because Miami did so in the case of Johnson (his last name is now Peterson). Randy Shannon of Miami does have a magnet for local kids down here, but don't assume they are just going to walk over to Coral Gables and sign on the dotted line. I have watched it for the past 30 years and more and more kids are considering out of state options, or even other schools in the state of Florida. A good example is 4 star Ryan Giddins, one of the best DE prospects who wound up being recruiting by the big 3, but wound up at....University of South Florida, Ryne Giddins - Football Recruiting

So many kids are looking beyond college at the NFL and are going to go somewhere that's going to get them that shot. The talent level and especially speed is incredible down here.

 

[schwab]

We would see way too many OSU homer posts if we, as fans (boosters) were allowed to actively recruit, along with the coaches, on these forums. I am so very glad it is not allowed, therefore, those of us on BP have learned to express our confidence in a subtle way. I think that is why you do not see more of the "come to OSU" posts. They are not allowed!

I hope OSU fans do not fear any school when recruiting against said school for any player. I am confident in landing Lamarcus until JT starts visiting the websites for help.

Your point of view is not under-valued genron, and your participation here is greatly appreciated. I am very excited about our chances for LJ. THE :osu:

 

[DontHateOState]

And you all do not think OSU cant walk into any home and just state it's name and not have pull. I'm I missing something here. I hate the Buffalo Bills and I never use to follow OSU, but I always knew Antonie Winfield was from OSU. All those game changing picks he use to have against the Dolphins. And other quality DB's. I know for a fact that those Defense coaches know what they are doing, one of the best in the country. Look yall, many coaches are coing in here saying Frank is going to be a star and make an immediate impact and he'll start as a FR and will get his name put out there and he'll go to league earlier with us, and etc... OSU hasnt said that and he knows he can do some of those things at OSU as well as any other school..

Very true. You look at the players Ohio State has pulled over the years and you know we can go anywhere and get anyone.

Heck, we are about to pull Joe Montana's son from halfway across the country.

Not to mention: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVQYQ33wmAw"]Mr. Pryor[/ame].

 

[southcampus]

I think everyone on this board feels we have a good of shot at LJ as anyone. I think he's the kind of kid that likes what OSU has to offer and make an immediate impact.

Genron, is LJ gonna run track or anything this spring?

 

[genron187]

we surf the net and hear FSU fans basically saying he's a lock, silent committ, will make it official at Seminole Showcase, etc.. and personally I assume they must have some source or someone telling them that..

LOL..haha. Thats too funny. :) . Seminole fans are still living in 1999. They think every Fla. prospect want to go to their school. Listening to them you'll think they have signed the 2010 class already. lol......some source...who coach Amato? that guy.... im really laughing now. You all have to get him from down here please

 

[osugrad21]

who coach Amato? that guy.... im really laughing now. You all have to get him from down here please

I've been there...its rough. He is amicable, but...well, he is a nice guy.

Here is the deal, Genron. Most people here are limited in what they can say. As one poster stated to us via PM, "People don't need to be lectured about boosters and recruits."

I agree.

However, its very easy to get caught up in the moment and end up throwing out all of the great things tOSU has to offer a prospect...but that is not good for the program or for the recruit.

I remember the first time I spoke with a major D1 coach....I was amazed at what he had to say. Then the next one came...I was all aboard...then the next...and the next. Before I knew it, I had a prospect loving every program in America and telling every Coach what they wanted to hear.

I am not at all saying that is what is happening with LJ...but I do know the process is glorious, overwhelming, flattering, shocking, tough, and eventually tiresome.

Enjoy as much of it as you can stand. When you get "that feeling," pull the trigger...you will know it when it happens.

Everyone here wants LJ in a Buckeye uniform.

What we cannot have happen is a pep rally atmosphere where people feel the need to try to influence you or LJ. We love tOSU...hope you end up feeling that way as well.

However, there is nothing anyone here can tell you that will match what you will see, learn, and hopefully feel when you set foot on campus. We trust the coaching staff...they have earned that.

Looking forward to your report after your visit with Jim Tressel and the rest of the staff.

 

[Buckeyecty4]

What I love is that we have the best source right here on BP.. I loved how genron posted that FSU and OSU were Top 2.. then a couple days later, LJ says the same thing in his update.. it's great, regardless of where LJ ends up, that we have such a close inside look at this recruitment..

Genron, thought it was nice that he had alot of kind words for you (assume it was you he was talkin about) in one of his recent Rivals update..

Anyway, how will the presence of Terell Buckley factor into this recruitment, I've heard Lamarcus talk highly of him, and FSU fans seem convinced Buckley will have a feature role in their coaching staff down the road (I dont know what hsi present role is)..

Also, I've heard that Andrews is going to be stepping down possibly following this season, how does that effect LJ's thinking?