King bumps his gums on the pickle

[Piney]

Quinn needed his WRs to do the work down field, Clasuen put the ball right on the money. Quinn lacked the accuracy Jimmy has. I know they went to the same school and had the same coach, but other than that there is no possible way anyone can say they are the same player. Are Sam Bradford and Jason White the same player? Are Circle K and Troy Smith the same player? They played at the same school and had the same coach..

Quinn needed his WRs to do the work? Did you watch how many times Tate bailed out Claussen? And imagine how much better Quinn's stats would have been if he actually had better WRs like Claussen to 'bail' him out.

All I remember when we got Quinn was everyone talking about how accurate he was. So really the only difference between the two I see and hear is Claussen has a stronger arm.

Comparing Quinn's SR numbers to Clausen's JR numbers dont work either. Looking at the rate that Clausen improved, that is pretty intriguing. And Clausen did play better pass defenses than Quinn did, like I said the stats are on the NCAA website. .

Then look at Quinn's JR numbers which are better than his SR year... just saying...

My issue with taking a QB later and waiting years for Holmgren to develope is that if that guy doesnt work out(a guy that is not ranked highly even in a bad QB year) we are back in the same spot we are always in, rebuilding and 4 years away.

So god forbid if Holmgren just takes a QB this year and never picks one again. Looking at Holmgren's history with Seattle he took a QB in 4 of his first 5 drafts with Seattle.

If the Browns employ the develop a late round QB strategy the team would most likely take a QB every year, at least until he has 2-3 QBs he feels comfortable with. Plus it doesn't take 'years' to develop a late round QB. Holmgren should know if he has something after a year. He can tell in fall camp and practice if there is a good chance he will develop or not.

Let us assume Holmgren takes Tony Pike in the 4th/5th round (not saying I like Pike... just using him as an example). Holmgren can watch him in fall camp and during the season in practice to see if he is getting 'it' or not. So this time next year Holmgren would hopefully have an idea on whether he thinks Pike will be a QB for the future.

Depending on that evaluation Holmgren can then either Trade for a QB if the Browns are a possible playoff team, maybe there is a better free agent out there to replace Delhomme or else he might really like a QB in the 1st round... or maybe pick another 5th round QB if Pike is doing ok.

 

[hatehineygate]

Quinn needed his WRs to do the work? Did you watch how many times Tate bailed out Claussen? And imagine how much better Quinn's stats would have been if he actually had better WRs like Claussen to 'bail' him out.

Dont discount what Quinn was throwing to, that Howard Stern clone was a 1st rounder, the other guy was drafted and two of his TEs were drafted. Tate and Floyd are awesome, but you are acting like Quinn was throwing to Bam Childress

I just watched both Tate and Clausen's youtube highlights and I dont agree at all. Clausen hit the mojority of those guys in stride, the Stanford and USC highlights really show Clausen putting the ball in the basket while Tate was triple covered. Tate is awesome, but if you are claiming he made Clausen, then you are wrong.

If you dont agree with me on Quinn, go watch his highlights, he didnt hit anyone in the hands, or in stride. Very good player, decently accurate, but Clausen is insanely accurate.

 

[Piney]

Dont discount what Quinn was throwing to, that Howard Stern clone was a 1st rounder, the other guy was drafted and two of his TEs were drafted. Tate and Floyd are awesome, but you are acting like Quinn was throwing to Bam Childress

I just watched both Tate and Clausen's youtube highlights and I dont agree at all. Clausen hit the mojority of those guys in stride, the Stanford and USC highlights really show Clausen putting the ball in the basket while Tate was triple covered. Tate is awesome, but if you are claiming he made Clausen, then you are wrong.

If you dont agree with me on Quinn, go watch his highlights, he didnt hit anyone in the hands, or in stride. Very good player, decently accurate, but Clausen is insanely accurate.

Highlights? screw that... that's too much time and I don't care that much to actually put up a bigger fight. (plus it helps that I don't have access to YouTube at work.) I'm sure other people will chime in to pick up my slack

I just hope Claussen is picked before the Browns to make this a mute point.

 

[hatehineygate]

Highlights? screw that... that's too much time and I don't care that much to actually put up a bigger fight. (plus it helps that I don't have access to YouTube at work.) I'm sure other people will chime in to pick up my slack

I just hope Claussen is picked before the Browns to make this a mute point.

No problem man, when I worked at Speedway I couldnt get onto the web. Thank goodness I am at home now nad I dont have to work because of the back injury I got falling out of my neighbors garage, was trying to steal some copper. It sucked, but at least I didnt have to work at Speedway and I could watch my footb all highlights and post on hineygate.

 

[AKAK]

No problem man, when I worked at Speedway I couldnt get onto the web. Thank goodness I am at home now nad I dont have to work because of the back injury I got falling out of my neighbors garage, was trying to steal some copper. It sucked, but at least I didnt have to work at Speedway and I could watch my footb all highlights and post on hineygate.

And now, you have the rest of the story.

 

[Buckeye86]

And now, you have the rest of the story.

the fake story behind the fake poster that is just trying to get a reaction out of people

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

No problem man, when I worked at Speedway I couldnt get onto the web. Thank goodness I am at home now nad I dont have to work because of the back injury I got falling out of my neighbors garage, was trying to steal some copper. It sucked, but at least I didnt have to work at Speedway and I could watch my footb all highlights and post on hineygate.

And now, you have the rest of the story.

Good day?

 

[AKAK]

the fake story behind the fake poster that is just trying to get a reaction out of people

Dude.... you're shattering my hopes of a fiery electrocution.

 

[Buckeye86]

Dude.... you're shattering my hopes of a fiery electrocution.

oh shit, I didn't realize there would be fire involved, carry on

 

[AKAK]

oh shit, I didn't realize there would be fire involved, carry on

 

[exhawg]

3 reasons NOT to draft his punk ass..

I don't know how anyone can look at these pictures and think I want this guy to be my QB.

 

[cjmik_75]

For the guys saying they will never root for the Browns again, why?

Are you in favor of going into this season with Delhomme as the starter and possibly not landing a real QB next year? I dont like Clausen for the same reasons people stated already, but after all the terrible picks the Browns have made why would this one be the final straw? I would love to get Bradford or Clausen just for the fact that there is something to build around. Going into next season with 8TDs to 18 INTs (with a much better team) dead armed Delhomme is suicide. I would love to have another option, but at this point I dont see it working out for us any other way.

Yes, I am in favor of going with Delhomme and not picking Clausen because there are waaaaaaaaay too many holes to fill on this Browns roster to waste on another over rated ND QB. I don't care if he's the second coming of Joe Montana because even Joe himself couldn't fix this franchise alone.

On your other question of why this would be the final straw...if bringing in Delhomme and Wallace for Quinn and DA doesn't work out it's not killing the team for years like a rookie QB contract would. Not to mention the fact that Clausen hasn't proved jack shit to warrant a 7th overall pick.

Something to build around you say? How about a defense? That's where I would start not another QB. And how about that back up QB for the Ravens for a 5th round pick as another option? What's his name again???

 

[hatehineygate]

Yes, I am in favor of going with Delhomme and not picking Clausen because there are waaaaaaaaay too many holes to fill on this Browns roster to waste on another over rated ND QB. I don't care if he's the second coming of Joe Montana because even Joe himself couldn't fix this franchise alone.

On your other question of why this would be the final straw...if bringing in Delhomme and Wallace for Quinn and DA doesn't work out it's not killing the team for years like a rookie QB contract would. Not to mention the fact that Clausen hasn't proved jack [censored] to warrant a 7th overall pick.

Something to build around you say? How about a defense? That's where I would start not another QB. And how about that back up QB for the Ravens for a 5th round pick as another option? What's his name again???

I wont argue that there arent a ton of problems, we basically need to overhaul all of our skill guys. In my mind the best way to go about it is get the line built up(we are in good shape) get a QB so he can spend a year or two developing while you aquire the RBs and WR. Ultimately it is easier to get solid defensive players in the later in the draft than it is to get say a big time QB.

 

[Buckeneye]

I wont argue that there arent a ton of problems, we basically need to overhaul all of our skill guys. In my mind the best way to go about it is get the line built up(we are in good shape) get a QB so he can spend a year or two developing while you aquire the RBs and WR. Ultimately it is easier to get solid defensive players in the later in the draft than it is to get say a big time QB.

Flip the script and I've watched 2 AFC north teams over the past decade have enormous success (3 total superbowls) riding top 5 defenses while the offense was in the bottom half of the NFL for their respective teams.

Defensive priority trumps a QB for this franchise right now.

 

[hatehineygate]

Very true, a dominating defense with Ryan would be awesome.