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And.... the name John Cooper isn't involved. Think of that... Woody was 0-1 and Urbs is 0-2. Something is amiss. I feel there is voodoo involved.
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ScriptOhio
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FIFY
And for those that don't remember (sadly) that was Woody's last game as head coach of THE Ohio State University football team.
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Systems_id
Head Coach
Probably. It is pretty horrendous luck that the two times Urban played Clemson, one side of the ball may as well have not even shown up.
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Since the infamous game, being humbled by S.C. schools led to:
'00 Tressel era beginning
'01 Winning a NC
'13 Winning a NC
'16 ...fixing the O, _____?
Perhaps Clemson's NC "was for Ohio State" after all.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
FILM STUDY: ANALYZING KEVIN WILSON'S STYLE OF PLAY-CALLING
Focus on the HOW, not the WHAT.
When the 2017 Ohio State offense takes the field this fall, much will be expected of J.T. Barrett and company. Not only will the Buckeyes likely hold a lofty preseason ranking, bolstered by four returning starters on the offensive line to lead the way for Barrett and Mike Weber, the unit will be led on the sidelines by one of the most respected minds in the college game.
But although many anticipate record-breaking performances from Kevin Wilson's new squad in Columbus, his offense likely won't look all that different from the ones seen in Ohio Stadium over the past five years. Indeed, Wilson ran many of the same concepts called by Urban Meyer, Tom Herman, and Ed Warinner during his time at Northwestern, Oklahoma, and Indiana.
However, though we often highlight specific plays and techniques in this very space, good play-callers recognize the way those calls are sequenced together matters just as much as the calls themselves. In this manner, Wilson's status is elevated amongst many of his peers.
Take the way Wilson calls the tight (inside) zone run, the foundational concept in Meyer's offense:
Entire article with more videos: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...analyzing-kevin-wilsons-style-of-play-calling
Focus on the HOW, not the WHAT.
When the 2017 Ohio State offense takes the field this fall, much will be expected of J.T. Barrett and company. Not only will the Buckeyes likely hold a lofty preseason ranking, bolstered by four returning starters on the offensive line to lead the way for Barrett and Mike Weber, the unit will be led on the sidelines by one of the most respected minds in the college game.
But although many anticipate record-breaking performances from Kevin Wilson's new squad in Columbus, his offense likely won't look all that different from the ones seen in Ohio Stadium over the past five years. Indeed, Wilson ran many of the same concepts called by Urban Meyer, Tom Herman, and Ed Warinner during his time at Northwestern, Oklahoma, and Indiana.
However, though we often highlight specific plays and techniques in this very space, good play-callers recognize the way those calls are sequenced together matters just as much as the calls themselves. In this manner, Wilson's status is elevated amongst many of his peers.
Take the way Wilson calls the tight (inside) zone run, the foundational concept in Meyer's offense:
Entire article with more videos: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...analyzing-kevin-wilsons-style-of-play-calling
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Hstead
Legend
Love Love love this stuff ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
This is what I am talking about, I have said a million times it is difficult enough to execute an offensive play when the D has no clue what is coming and is off balance. When the D has a good clue, due to our lack of imagination and lack of execution, it becomes damn near impossible at times to execute a good offensive play. I have argued that I do not think Beck knew exactly what the plays should look like when executed perfectly. which to me is the most important part of coaching, understanding what it is supposed to look like when the D does what you expect them to do, which is do their job.
Wilson takes advantage of the D doing their jobs, makes their jobs way harder to do because the execution of each play looks the damn same but the ball can go three different places. That frustrates the piss out of a defender then the O executions looks identical and the ball goes three different places. That keeps the D honest and you can't cheat or you are toast. Over the past two years, Defenses have gotten away with cheating constantly on our ass. DBs sitting on routes because we are predictable just like Leonard pointed out. Stacking the box because they knew what was coming. Forcing us to go to our predictable piss poor pass attack.
Can't wait for Wilson to get to run the O with OSU level talent. We have the talent, he will make them now look like All Americans instead of guys that can't get separation. It is coaching peoples.
This is what I am talking about, I have said a million times it is difficult enough to execute an offensive play when the D has no clue what is coming and is off balance. When the D has a good clue, due to our lack of imagination and lack of execution, it becomes damn near impossible at times to execute a good offensive play. I have argued that I do not think Beck knew exactly what the plays should look like when executed perfectly. which to me is the most important part of coaching, understanding what it is supposed to look like when the D does what you expect them to do, which is do their job.
Wilson takes advantage of the D doing their jobs, makes their jobs way harder to do because the execution of each play looks the damn same but the ball can go three different places. That frustrates the piss out of a defender then the O executions looks identical and the ball goes three different places. That keeps the D honest and you can't cheat or you are toast. Over the past two years, Defenses have gotten away with cheating constantly on our ass. DBs sitting on routes because we are predictable just like Leonard pointed out. Stacking the box because they knew what was coming. Forcing us to go to our predictable piss poor pass attack.
Can't wait for Wilson to get to run the O with OSU level talent. We have the talent, he will make them now look like All Americans instead of guys that can't get separation. It is coaching peoples.
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ScriptOhio
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SPECIFICS OF OHIO STATE'S OFFENSIVE CHANGES YET TO BE DISCUSSED IN GREAT DETAIL
Ohio State’s offense figures to look a bit different in 2017.
When a program hires a new offensive coordinator, that’s typically the case.
With Kevin Wilson calling plays for the Buckeyes next season, there will surely be some minor tweaks and changes to the scheme. A complete overhaul, however, this is not.
That’s what some of Ohio State’s players said anyway.
“Yeah, so one of the main things that we've talked about, it's not like we were awful by any means,” quarterback J.T. Barrett said Sunday. “It was more of we weren't just lighting up the scoreboard. We had the yardage, the yardage was still the same with where we wanted to be, but it wasn't the 50-point games that we expect at Ohio State.”
“That's the main thing: We have the train running, but we just gotta make sure that it's going full speed.”
Most of Ohio State’s coaches are out on the road recruiting now with National Signing Day just over one week away. That means Wilson and new quarterbacks coach Ryan Day haven’t had a ton of time to work with the Buckeyes’ returning players. They’re currently focused on finding new ones.
Because of that, there hasn’t been a ton of discussion yet between the staff and players regarding the specific changes that will be made.
“We want to attack it more vertical, I know that, and do a little bit more spacing wise,” offensive lineman Billy Price said. “But other than that, nothing too drastic and just the changes everybody was expecting.”
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...e-changes-yet-to-be-discussed-in-great-detail
Ohio State’s offense figures to look a bit different in 2017.
When a program hires a new offensive coordinator, that’s typically the case.
With Kevin Wilson calling plays for the Buckeyes next season, there will surely be some minor tweaks and changes to the scheme. A complete overhaul, however, this is not.
That’s what some of Ohio State’s players said anyway.
“Yeah, so one of the main things that we've talked about, it's not like we were awful by any means,” quarterback J.T. Barrett said Sunday. “It was more of we weren't just lighting up the scoreboard. We had the yardage, the yardage was still the same with where we wanted to be, but it wasn't the 50-point games that we expect at Ohio State.”
“That's the main thing: We have the train running, but we just gotta make sure that it's going full speed.”
Most of Ohio State’s coaches are out on the road recruiting now with National Signing Day just over one week away. That means Wilson and new quarterbacks coach Ryan Day haven’t had a ton of time to work with the Buckeyes’ returning players. They’re currently focused on finding new ones.
Because of that, there hasn’t been a ton of discussion yet between the staff and players regarding the specific changes that will be made.
“We want to attack it more vertical, I know that, and do a little bit more spacing wise,” offensive lineman Billy Price said. “But other than that, nothing too drastic and just the changes everybody was expecting.”
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...e-changes-yet-to-be-discussed-in-great-detail
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Good interview in the Lantern with Gene Smith concerning the vetting of Wilson before Urban was allowed to go ahead with the job offer. It's clear that there was some institutional control involved, and I think we can be pretty confident that whatever happened at IU won't be a problem at Ohio State.
http://thelantern.com/2017/01/football-ad-gene-smith-talks-kevin-wilson-and-new-coaching-changes/
http://thelantern.com/2017/01/football-ad-gene-smith-talks-kevin-wilson-and-new-coaching-changes/
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
No Huddle Breakdown: What to Expect from Kevin Wilson
With the official hiring of Kevin Wilson as the offensive coordinator at Ohio State, many fans want to know what can be expected on the offensive side of the ball next season. While head coach Urban Meyer and Kevin Wilson run a similar “Power Read” scheme, there are a few wrinkles that Wilson interjects that will be sure to excite Buckeye fans heading into the offseason.
In this edition of the No Huddle Breakdown we take a closer look at some of these wrinkles in a series of video breakdowns that will focus on the bread-and-butter concepts of the Ohio State offense of the Urban Meyer era, but through the mind of Kevin Wilson. Look at him as our own version of the lovable neighbor in “Home Improvement”, coincidentally named “Wilson”, that offered sound advice over the fence each Friday night.
Jet Motion
The use of the jet sweep within the Ohio State offense has evolved somewhat over the past five seasons. If you recall in 2012, the Buckeyes were lacking offensive playmakers to fill the coveted “Percy Harvin” role, so the jet motion was not a large part of the offense. Dontre Wilson entered the mix in 2013, but the results left a lot to be desired. Wilson rushed for only 250 yards on the season, but the true impact of the formation is difficult to quantify as Braxton Miller would execute a “touch pass” to the player in motion, resulting in passing yardage instead of true rushing stats. Very few wrinkles were created off the formation with either Miller keeping the ball, or Carlos Hyde taking a handoff on the inside zone read.
The emergence of Jalin Marshall, Braxton Miller and Curtis Samuel brought a mixed bag of results compared to other schools that consistently run this motion concept, but the successes weren't necessarily attributed to an X’s and O’s advantage so much as superior athletic ability and playmaking ability by these dynamic players.Then, something strange happened during the 2016 season. The Buckeye defense continued to get torched by the Wisconsin version of the jet sweep which not only prompted a change defensively, but also a change in the way Meyer executed the jet sweep. Barrett moved under center which noticeably sped up the exchange between him and the “motion” player. What continued to be lacking were any creative wrinkles off of this motion.
The common theme with Kevin Wilson will be his focus on putting players in the best position to make plays. With J.T. Barrett’s proven ability to read defenders, and the ability of the wide receivers to block, this will open up a variety of options for the offense, including easy throws for Barrett against the flow of the defense.
Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...le-Breakdown-What-to-Expect-from-Kevin-Wilson
With the official hiring of Kevin Wilson as the offensive coordinator at Ohio State, many fans want to know what can be expected on the offensive side of the ball next season. While head coach Urban Meyer and Kevin Wilson run a similar “Power Read” scheme, there are a few wrinkles that Wilson interjects that will be sure to excite Buckeye fans heading into the offseason.
In this edition of the No Huddle Breakdown we take a closer look at some of these wrinkles in a series of video breakdowns that will focus on the bread-and-butter concepts of the Ohio State offense of the Urban Meyer era, but through the mind of Kevin Wilson. Look at him as our own version of the lovable neighbor in “Home Improvement”, coincidentally named “Wilson”, that offered sound advice over the fence each Friday night.
Jet Motion
The use of the jet sweep within the Ohio State offense has evolved somewhat over the past five seasons. If you recall in 2012, the Buckeyes were lacking offensive playmakers to fill the coveted “Percy Harvin” role, so the jet motion was not a large part of the offense. Dontre Wilson entered the mix in 2013, but the results left a lot to be desired. Wilson rushed for only 250 yards on the season, but the true impact of the formation is difficult to quantify as Braxton Miller would execute a “touch pass” to the player in motion, resulting in passing yardage instead of true rushing stats. Very few wrinkles were created off the formation with either Miller keeping the ball, or Carlos Hyde taking a handoff on the inside zone read.
The emergence of Jalin Marshall, Braxton Miller and Curtis Samuel brought a mixed bag of results compared to other schools that consistently run this motion concept, but the successes weren't necessarily attributed to an X’s and O’s advantage so much as superior athletic ability and playmaking ability by these dynamic players.Then, something strange happened during the 2016 season. The Buckeye defense continued to get torched by the Wisconsin version of the jet sweep which not only prompted a change defensively, but also a change in the way Meyer executed the jet sweep. Barrett moved under center which noticeably sped up the exchange between him and the “motion” player. What continued to be lacking were any creative wrinkles off of this motion.
The common theme with Kevin Wilson will be his focus on putting players in the best position to make plays. With J.T. Barrett’s proven ability to read defenders, and the ability of the wide receivers to block, this will open up a variety of options for the offense, including easy throws for Barrett against the flow of the defense.
Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...le-Breakdown-What-to-Expect-from-Kevin-Wilson
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Basically, we will have constraint plays again. That's part of what made his offenses dangerous at IU despite lackluster talent. Defenses could not sell out to stop a particular play.
Under Beck/Warinner, it was almost like we had a "we're gonna do what we do" mentality, despite whatever defenses were trying to take away. That still works pretty well when you have OSU level talent though.
Under Beck/Warinner, it was almost like we had a "we're gonna do what we do" mentality, despite whatever defenses were trying to take away. That still works pretty well when you have OSU level talent though.
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there is an old saying in poker that a play "works every time until it doesn't"
That is kind of how I feel they managed the huge talent advantage they had the past 2 years. Especially '15. That team not winning a NC is criminal.
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redguard117
Hall of Fame
That team likely had the NFL Rookie of the Year (Zeke), DROY (Bosa), OROY candidate / leading rookie WR in receptions and yards (MT), and another DROY candidate (Apple, chosen by NFL.com). And personally, I can see Adolphus and Vonn killing it in a year or two.
Probably go down as the biggest waste of talent I'll ever see in my lifetime. Sad.
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