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Kevin (Tim “Asshat” Racadb) Warren (ex-B1G Commissioner)

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I can completely understand that decisions as a professional are different than similar decisions on similar topics, made as a father

BUT

As a father, I will believe you when you say you made a decision with the health of your son foremost on your mind as you evaluated the risks. Kevin said he made his professional decision with the health of the players foremost on his mind.

Using that, single, criterion, what are the major factors that would cause him to choose differently?

One kid vs the vagaries of an entire conference? I have two problems with this one: 1) His son plays in the “take your yankee mask and shove it up your yankee ass” South, in a conference over which he has neither visibility nor control, and 2) It. Is. His. Son. I’d put the entire Ohio State football team in a giant blender if I thought it would improve my son’s chances of survival by 1%.

Whatever else Warren did, his lack of transparency while telling weak-sauce, obvious lies is as cynical as it is cowardly.

Not sure how I’ll feel about it tomorrow, but I’m not in a charitable mood right now

my dog died this morning and I’m on the verge of telling some of the pretentious crusty fuck towels here exactly what I think of them

time to log off
 
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Unless this fucker is playing the long game by shutting things down on the surface with the intention of changing direction after the SEC / ACC / B12 have all shut it down because players are attending corona parties, he’s got to go.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
BIG TEN COMMISSIONER KEVIN WARREN SAYS DECISION TO POSTPONE FALL SPORTS “WILL NOT BE REVISITED” IN OPEN LETTER

The Big Ten will not reconsider its decision to postpone fall sports.

In an open letter released by the conference on Wednesday, Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren said “the vote by the Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors (COP/C) was overwhelmingly in support of postponing fall sports and will not be revisited.”

“The decision was thorough and deliberative, and based on sound feedback, guidance and advice from medical experts,” Warren said. “Despite the decision to postpone fall sports, we continue our work to find a path forward that creates a healthy and safe environment for all Big Ten student-athletes to compete in the sports they love in a manner that helps to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and protects both student-athletes and the surrounding communities.”

In a statement released by Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith on Wednesday, he reiterated that Ohio State president Kristina Johnson “has been 100% aligned” with him and Ryan Day in their desire to play football and other fall sports this fall, and said Ohio State “is confident that we have the safety protocols and rigorous safeguards in place for our student-athletes to practice and return to competition immediately,” though OSU is now “actively planning for the winter and spring seasons for all sports, including the return of football.”

Warren, who had not previously specified the reasons behind the conference's decision to postpone fall sports, wrote Wednesday that the primary reasons behind the decisions included the amount of positive COVID-19 cases around the country, the unknowns about the virus' long-term effects and the inability to maintain physical distancing guidelines while playing contact sports.
  • Transmission rates continue to rise at an alarming rate with little indication from medical experts that our campuses, communities or country could gain control of the spread of the virus prior to the start of competition.
    • As our teams were ramping up for more intense practices, many of our medical staffs did not think the interventions we had planned would be adequate to decrease the potential spread even with very regular testing.
    • As the general student body comes back to campus, spread to student-athletes could reintroduce infection into our athletics community.
  • There is simply too much we do not know about the virus, recovery from infection, and longer-term effects. While the data on cardiomyopathy is preliminary and incomplete, the uncertain risk was unacceptable at this time.
  • Concerns surrounding contact tracing still exist, including the inability to social distance in contact sports pursuant to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines. While risk mitigation processes (e.g., physical distancing, face coverings, proper hygiene, etc.) can be implemented across campus for the student body population, it became clear those processes could not be fully implemented in contact sports.
    • With the start of full-contact practices and competitions, it became increasingly clear that contact tracing and quarantining would risk frequent and significant disruptions to the practice and competition calendar.
    • Accurate and widely available rapid testing may help mitigate those concerns, but access to accurate tests is currently limited.
    • Significant concerns also exist regarding the testing supply chain, generally, for many of our institutions.
“Financial considerations did not influence the COP/C decision, as the postponement will have enormous adverse financial implications,” Warren said. “We understand the passion of the many student-athletes and their families who were disappointed by the decision, but also know there are many who have a great deal of concern and anxiety regarding the pandemic.”

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/the-...l-sports-will-not-be-revisited-in-open-letter
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Another example of unnecessary stubbornness. All he had to say was unless the facts change you shouldn't expect the decision to change.

Saying it "will not be revisited" says it doesn't matter if the facts change, we're not open to discussing it. Fuck you if you don't like it.

Just keeps adding to my thoughts that the virus wasn't the primary concern.
 
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Jake said:
Another example of unnecessary stubbornness. All he had to say was unless the facts change you shouldn't expect the decision to change.

Saying it "will not be revisited" says it doesn't matter if the facts change, we're not open to discussing it. Fuck you if you don't like it.

Just keeps adding to my thoughts that the virus wasn't the primary concern.
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The other option would be for Waren to admit he misinterpreted the facts or failed to consider all the facts, and change his decision. However, that would be an admission that "he had been wrong" which he'll never admit to regardless of the facts.
 
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DaBuckeyes said:
There's a few answers he could give to why his son is still playing but the issue is he simply says meaningless random words instead of answering the question.
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What @Oh8ch said earlier sums it up perfectly: "If a kid in the B1G gets sick, they sue us. If my kid gets sick, I sue them." It's absolute pure cowardice on Warren's (and any complicit B1G presidents) part. Fuck. Them.
 
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Somebody needs to throw up the Jim Delany bat signal. He’s our only hope.

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Look - I have my feelings on this (all politics aside, of course).

Do I want the players to play football in the fall? Hell yes - I had to have someone get the jaws of life to un-contort my body from the fetal position I was in when they cancelled football.

Do I want to players to be safe and healthy? Damn right I do. Again, I've had a wife who quite possibly had this in January and it almost made me a widower.

I believe in transparency as well and accountability. I'm also no fool - if the B1G and PAC-12 could find a way to not be legally obligated with a lawsuit the first kid that gets sick and dies from the Rona, they'd have done it by now.

So - here's a solution.

Offer to the kids, coaching staff, officials, etc, that wish to participate sign a indemnity waver stating that the conference and schools are not responsible for any harm that comes to them if they get sick. No different than what the President did in Tulsa (agree or disagree aside). Then we'll see who is rolling deep with the football gods on this one.

Personally - I think not playing football in the fall is still the right decision. I'm into marble racing.
 
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Abenaki said:


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Well that right there is complete evidence he should not be in his position.

One in that job simply cannot underestimate blowback when making a decision to cut every program’s biggest money maker...

Planning for anything but a worst case response to this kind of decision demonstrates a lack of foresight and preparedness.
 
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Abenaki said:
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Does he think he's commissioner of the Big Sky conference?

You put together a revised schedule to play a season then cancel the damn thing six days later. It's not like there were 400 Covid diagnoses in the B1G that weekend.

You shut down programs with 100,000+ seat stadiums and rich histories. Of course it's going to get scrutinized.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
I’m on the verge of telling some of the pretentious crusty fuck towels here exactly what I think of them
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What did I ever do to you? :lol:

Serious, condolences on your dog. My oldest daughter and her husband have two dogs (they've had the first four almost four years and the second for about two)...they are essentially their kids. When one of those dogs eventually crosses the bridge she is going to go off the deep end.
 
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