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Kevin (Tim “Asshat” Racadb) Warren (ex-B1G Commissioner)

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BigWoof31 said:
So did half the world, imo.
I like to see SEC Commish Greg Sankey dunk on Warren whenever possible. But lack of action or being overly cautious in a once in a century event isn't worthy of a ding. Or perhaps a very small ding.
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The cancellation of the season wasn't super egregious. It was the communication around it that was terrible. Release new season plan. Week later panic and cancel season cause MAC did was bad but not end of the world as everyone knew that was from the presidents. It was the holier then thou we will not revisit this it's set in stone not an evolving situation that turned a hell of a lot of people off.

I liked reading he hired a crisis management consultant. Cause he and the rest of the conference is clearly bad at it. Take no further look at Gene Smith. He's handled crisis's badly until COVID where he seemed ok. But besides that and however you feel about the Matta situation that ended up working out for us. He's been a great leader and representive of the university
 
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dragurd said:
It was the communication around it that was terrible. Release new season plan. Week later panic and cancel season cause MAC did was bad but not end of the world as everyone knew that was from the presidents. It was the holier then thou we will not revisit this it's set in stone not an evolving situation that turned a hell of a lot of people off.
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This. They were making panic moves and clearly had one plan with no contingencies, despite having months to work out scenarios.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Maybe. He was brand new in the job and was following the lead of the majority of people who hired him. Until I see proof that a majority of Presidents wanted a season (they didn't), and he overruled them to try and cancel it, I'm giving him a big mulligan on 2020.
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BigWoof31 said:
So did half the world, imo.
I like to see SEC Commish Greg Sankey dunk on Warren whenever possible. But lack of action or being overly cautious in a once in a century event isn't worthy of a ding. Or perhaps a very small ding.
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Very specifically, I believe his failure was sitting on his hands for 4-5 months just hoping that things would get better. Rather than creating plans to move forward under various scenarios, they did absolutely nothing to proactively address the situation and cancelled the season when it became apparent that a normal season was not going to happen.

And then due to that lack of action that dragged out for months, they scrambled at the last moments to throw a season together when his hand was forced.

Maybe his newness in the role hampered him, and it was a once in a century (hopefully) scenario, but to me, the lack of action and immediate capitulation when things didn’t magically fix themselves was an indictment of his crisis management capacity.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
He failed conclusively in the test of crisis management in 2020, hopefully he avails himself better in this circumstance.
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I think everybody failed in the knee-jerk, politicized response to COVID. He was also too new on the job to throw his weight around. I’m amenable to giving him the benefit of the doubt.

The forward of his — probable 30 year legacy — will be the upcoming media rights negotiation, not his COVID response.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
FWIW, this is from the MwC board and a poster who works in an MWC AD. This is what he said the domers were demanding.

  • None of their games would ever be on the BTN
  • A game every year in California
  • Stanford would join with them
  • They would choose their own pod, which would include Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue and would not include Ohio State.
  • They would finish the regular season with a rotation of USC in Cali one year and Michigan the other.
The latter two are a clear indication of their intent to marginalize both Ohio State and The Game and replace it with something to the benefit and promotion of ND.
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I'm not sure what MWC is.
Here's my response, if I had any power:
1. HAHAHA!
2. ...
3. Meh. We'll look into that.
4. You have 10 seconds to get out of my office before I tell my goons to break your kneecaps.
5. Actually, you don't even get 10 seconds. Vito and (insert some other culturally inappropriate name for a goon here), please escort Mr. Dumbshit to get a personal view of my least favorite rug and see if he'd like to go for a swim with it.

It seems as though people are intent on letting Notre Dame go from the #3 team in the state of Indiana as far as media rights go, to tied for #1. I'm not sure why we care. But if we're going to do that, then you make them stay there. You get games on BTN just like any other team. You play some games in California, but probably not every year. There probably will not be pods, but go shove your idea that you can make your own schedule up your ass and then pull it out with your own teeth. And you have no tradition of playing *ichigan the last week of the season - you're only doing that to throw your dick around. How about this plan: Take the red pill, and we let you in this conference with no special provisions. Take the blue pill, and our schools will no longer play Notre Dame in any sport, including Hockey, effective immediately. Likewise, we will not admit another school that has Notre Dame on any future schedule. We'll tell the rest of the country that if they want to play Notre Dame, fine, but they will not have a chance to be a part of the Big Ten conference.
 
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Zurp said:
I'm not sure what MWC is.
Here's my response, if I had any power:
1. HAHAHA!
2. ...
3. Meh. We'll look into that.
4. You have 10 seconds to get out of my office before I tell my goons to break your kneecaps.
5. Actually, you don't even get 10 seconds. Vito and (insert some other culturally inappropriate name for a goon here), please escort Mr. Dumbshit to get a personal view of my least favorite rug and see if he'd like to go for a swim with it.

It seems as though people are intent on letting Notre Dame go from the #3 team in the state of Indiana as far as media rights go, to tied for #1. I'm not sure why we care. But if we're going to do that, then you make them stay there. You get games on BTN just like any other team. You play some games in California, but probably not every year. There probably will not be pods, but go shove your idea that you can make your own schedule up your ass and then pull it out with your own teeth. And you have no tradition of playing *ichigan the last week of the season - you're only doing that to throw your dick around. How about this plan: Take the red pill, and we let you in this conference with no special provisions. Take the blue pill, and our schools will no longer play Notre Dame in any sport, including Hockey, effective immediately. Likewise, we will not admit another school that has Notre Dame on any future schedule. We'll tell the rest of the country that if they want to play Notre Dame, fine, but they will not have a chance to be a part of the Big Ten conference.
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Like I said, it comes from a message board, but the guy is acknowledged as legit working for a MWC AD, so he probably has some professional colleagues/friends at either ND or a B1G school. And it was probably the latter since he said that the list was e-mailed to him.

I think, we'd take Stanford to get them, but everything else they put on the table was never going anywhere. They're not dictating when and where their games are shown. They're not getting preferential access to the California recruiting market. They're not writing their own pod/schedule. And they sure as shit are NOT marginalizing Ohio State and The Game to promote themselves.

I'm not saying Gee should have said it in the forum that he did, but he was god damned right that you can't trust the priests who run that glorified Swiss boarding school. They will pray with you on Sunday and stab you in the back on Monday. I think the only thing remaining now is for them to hold their inevitable press conference where they talk about how they are too morally and academically superior to affiliate with the Big Ten like they did last time around. And when the dust all settles, we need to launch that fucking hockey program into the sun.
 
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The more I think about it the guaranteed California games thing would be huge for them in recruiting California. While I don't know it, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't angling to play at UCLA in years where they had USC at home. That, depending on how their Stanford rotation dropped, could give them as many as 5 California games over a recruit's 3 year window. Even if UCLA wasn't guaranteed, it would rotate on, so they could offer 4 California games at times. They sit in some future CJ Stroud's home and say "come to ND and you'll have 4 in California during your career; go to Ohio State, and it looks like you're only getting 1." Or they could sit in some Bay Area kid's home and say, "go to Ohio State, and you'll never play a game in the Bay Area, but if you come to Notre Dame, you're playing 2 plus another game in SoCal."
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Like I said, it comes from a message board, but the guy is acknowledged as legit working for a MWC AD, so he probably has some professional colleagues/friends at either ND or a B1G school. And it was probably the latter since he said that the list was e-mailed to him.

I think, we'd take Stanford to get them, but everything else they put on the table was never going anywhere. They're not dictating when and where their games are shown. They're not getting preferential access to the California recruiting market. They're not writing their own pod/schedule. And they sure as shit are NOT marginalizing Ohio State and The Game to promote themselves.

I'm not saying Gee should have said it in the forum that he did, but he was god damned right that you can't trust the priests who run that glorified Swiss boarding school. They will pray with you on Sunday and stab you in the back on Monday. I think the only thing remaining now is for them to hold their inevitable press conference where they talk about how they are too morally and academically superior to affiliate with the Big Ten like they did last time around. And when the dust all settles, we need to launch that fucking hockey program into the sun.
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If this kind of thing is true, Warren needs to release it publicly. What rationale do even the most die-hard Notre Dame fans have to defend those points? I want to hear them come out and say, "We're better than the Big Ten, and we deserve more," because that will be very funny.
 
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Zurp said:
If this kind of thing is true, Warren needs to release it publicly. What rationale do even the most die-hard Notre Dame fans have to defend those points? I want to hear them come out and say, "We're better than the Big Ten, and we deserve more," because that will be very funny.
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As things stand right now, I think the B1G's position right now is "go out and see what's out there for you and if you want to come back and be serious about joining as an equal member, the door will be open." Thus the weaselly desperation of trying to work the B12 into some package deal with NBC to get them 75M. How dumb do you have to be if you're the B12 and you crawl into bed with Notre Dame and NBC. I'm pretty sure if I look at those three, I can guess which one ends up getting fucked in the deal.

Reportedly, they also went to the ACC with a bunch of outrageous demands regarding full membership and were turned down. Now, if they never come back, I think there's a chance that this will be leaked in some substantive way through friendly media. Unfortunately, the fact that Warren and Gene Smith are domer alumni means that I doubt the B1G will ever hold a press conference and rub their faces in it publicly.
 
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CincyInterloper said:
I kind of hope the Domers stick to their guns and get frozen out of the B1G. Mainly, because I don't like them. But also, I think it would provide a karmic cleansing to the Universe from which we would all benefit.
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I also want to see them go to the SEC with their list of demands.
"The Big Ten wouldn't let us in with these conditions. Hey, can we come over for a minute? I got something I want to ask you."
 
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