K Jonathan Skeete (official thread)

[Folanator]

That wasn't even the point of the post. The point was to say that you can't just say commiting a crime is OK just because others are doing it.

Try reading posts for what they are instead of what you want them to say.

Wrong oh fellow Buckeye. You put child molestor and someone dealing pot in the same sentence and you are telling me that you are not making the comparison?
Maybe you do it to make your point more colorful, but do not tell me for one second that you were not lumping them in together.
I am going to call you on that form of "proof" everytime.

 

[Buckin' A]

For us to condemn a kid and banish students to never being able setting foot on campus again (Tibor) is just retarded.

I agree with you here. I just do not think he should ever become a scholarship player again. He had that opportunity and blew it. I think it also sends an awful bad message to end up paying for a convicted drug dealers education when there are others who would kill for that chance.

 

[Buckin' A]

Wrong oh fellow Buckeye. You put child molestor and someone dealing pot in the same sentence and you are telling me that you are not making the comparison?
Maybe you do it to make your point more colorful, but do not tell me for one second that you were not lumping them in together.
I am going to call you on that form of "proof" everytime.

Ok.

I am going to go eat after I clean up that dog shit on the floor.



So, does that mean that I like to eat dog shit, since I put them in the same sentence?

 

[Folanator]

I agree with you here. I just do not think he should ever become a scholarship player again. He had that opportunity and blew it. I think it also sends an awful bad message to end up paying for a convicted drug dealers education when there are others who would kill for that chance.

I would tend to agree unless the kid prove himself clean over a period of years. These kids are way to young to not let them have the chance in earning redemption.

 

[Thump]

I think it also sends an awful bad message to end up paying for a convicted drug dealers education when there are others who would kill for that chance.

Wasn't it said that he's paying his own way to OSU now?

I agree that he should be allowed back in school and a chance to Walk-on but I do think him earning his scholarship back is not a good precedent to set.

HE sacrificed that scholarship when he decided trafficking weed was a good idea.

Life's full of hard lessons and I think him having to pay his own way will benefit him much more down the road than the school picking up the tab again.

 

[Folanator]

Ok.

I am going to go eat after I clean up that dog shit on the floor.



So, does that mean that I like to eat dog shit, since I put them in the same sentence?

No, but if you said...

that you had a real problem with Middle Eastern countries, and then say that you would not want to have the world full of Middle Easterner's just like you wouldn't want the world full of Terrorists.

That would be similar and yes, you are making a linked argument through association.

 

[jwinslow]

Not sure why we are discussing that he shouldn't get his schollie back. It has been stripped, and considering how few walkons get schollies, I doubt that Skeete will earn one over another walkon without that baggage.

1. I don't believe for a second that a majority of students at OSU smoke weed. This world just does a good job at making us think that everyone does stuff so we don't feel as bad about our own decisions.

big difference from chronic abusers and those who have tried it. I came from a pretty nice school in an upper-middle class suburb, ideal community to raise your kids, and most at least tried it occasionally.

 

[Jeffcat]

Yeah, drug trafficking is the same as a DUI. And if any of the other 58,000 are drug dealers, their asses should be history too.

Yeah, the kid made a big mistake. And mistakes have consequences. One consequence should be that a school like OSU would stay away from him.

Why do people act like attending OSU is a right? It's not. And this (guy's) chance at it should be history.

he was caught trafficking weed. whoop dee frickin doo. im sure he doesnt have a columbian drug lord as part of his house. he prolly sold a dimebag worth of weed to a random cop and its been blown out of proportion. whether you want to believe it or not the rampant use of weed is in every college. im sure as hell not defending his actions but hes already had to go through the court system and they shook him up and now hes on probation. the guy seems like he wants to work back for the kicking position and im sure weed doesnt help that effort nor is it a really feasible idea with 58,000 other students around you so im not really concerned about it. you want osu to just kick him out so he becomes nothing and becomes a drug dealer? then its nothing but a waste and more problems in the world. im also sure the other kickers are not going to be pissed that he beat them out and with a previous trafficking record. hes back on the team and seems pretty enthused and willing about it. if the other players dont like it that they got beat out then they can go look in the mirror.

 

[barlow1802]

just to keep you posted, I dont think Skeete will be eligble to see the field this spring.."Found out my whole Winter Quarter was pointless and that I can't play this Spring." source is facebook again, i thought i'd take a look and see if anything was new and thats the latest i guess.

 

[jenkinswoody]

he was caught trafficking weed. whoop dee frickin doo.

I guess that we all have different standards on what is acceptable and who should represent our university. I still think that he should be gone. He was a drug dealer.

 

[BayBuck]

I still think that he should be gone. He was a drug dealer.

Good thing for Skeete that you and others on this board who share your opinion don't have any involvement in the decision-making process that allowed him back into school and onto the team.

 

[jenkinswoody]

Good thing for Skeete that you and others on this board who share your opinion don't have any involvement in the decision-making process that allowed him back into school and onto the team.

Yes it is.....

 

[Jeffcat]

I guess that we all have different standards on what is acceptable and who should represent our university. I still think that he should be gone. He was a drug dealer.

good point but if you told the entire city of columbus to do the same the population would be down around 100,000. people screw up and especially youthful ones yet so they need a smack to reality not a noose around their neck. ive seen more than a couple guys going for their PhD's in their respective areas with a near 4.0GPA and most of them finally got their ass in gear and are pretty good people these days. of course it took a wake up call but at most colleges its the same just a a huge scale at osu because its so massive and partyish with athletics. i guess i cant complain it could be colorado

 

[Steve19]

I completely disagree.

You sure you stand by that statement?

Responding from China and must be brief. Yes, I stand by it 100%.

BP is the kind of place where we focus on behavior, not people. Someone plays badly, then by all means I think a discussion about the bad play and possible implications is warranted. Someone makes a bad decision, then fine, let's discuss that.

However, focusing on the person is inappropriate. This thread deals with perhaps the worst kind of association we would ever see with a Buckeye player: drug dealing. I have just read the thread and I am in agreement in many ways with those who advocate that Jonathan Skeete is a convicted drug dealer. He is. He was charged with selling marijuana to undercover agents on more than one occasion and he had significant quantities of the drug in his possession when arrested.

Do I think that selling drugs and the appropriateness of admitting a convicted player back to the team is good content for a BP discussion? YES. Is it appropriate to call Skeete names or bash him? No.

Personally, I would not admit Skeete back to the team, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW (BUT I DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS). I hate drugs. Drugs killed a number of my friends, all of whom started by smoking weed and telling me repeatedly that nothing bad could come from it. Coach Tressel has taken another decision and he has all the facts.

The decision to use drugs is a personal decision and I don't judge those who decide to use them. I would note however that it is a crime and opens one to exactly the consequences that Skeete has encountered.

Tressel knows very well that he doesn't want bad attention to focus on the team in a possible national championship season. So, I must assume that he has discounted that possibility and feels that it would be in the best interest of the student, the university, and the team to readmit Skeete to the team. Consequently, bashing Skeete is inappropriate, bashing his behavior is fine.

You guys stay well.

 

[Buckin' A]

good point but if you told the entire city of columbus to do the same the population would be down around 100,000. people screw up and especially youthful ones yet so they need a smack to reality not a noose around their neck. ive seen more than a couple guys going for their PhD's in their respective areas with a near 4.0GPA and most of them finally got their ass in gear and are pretty good people these days. of course it took a wake up call but at most colleges its the same just a a huge scale at osu because its so massive and partyish with athletics. i guess i cant complain it could be colorado

The entire city of Columbus isn't on scholarship to one of the most prestigious university's in the world. I agree that he should be let back into school to get his education, but never again on scholarship.