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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

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Just wondering: Watching how fast Tennessee put Fullmer out to pasture got me to wondering about Tressel. Coop had a winning season the year he was fired and despite losing to Michigan at an alarmingly regular rate, he still won Big 10 championships. What would it take to get Tress fired? (really, just sayin', not trying to stir up trouble) If the Bucks loose two more games this year and get pounded in a bowl game? If we loose to USC, Penn State and another bowl loss in 09 -10?
 
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It would take an awful lot to fire Tressel.

I wasn't saying he was rude or anything of the sort but usually Tress will just say " come on now" and it's over. I guess if the reporters kept askin him I don't blame him fo ending it.
 
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I can't imagine how anyone could open a discussion on firing Jim Tressel, within the structures of Ohio State.

Teams get attitude problems. In business, you attempt to remedy the situation first. If the gripes either are not reasonable or cannot be satisfied, then you counsel the staff member out of the organization. In college sports, the process is little different.

Tressel is too much of a class act to talk about any player's problems. Right now, Small has been shown the door. If he chooses to stay inside it, then it sounds like he will have to take immediate action to stay. If he chooses to leave, then Ohio State will go on without him.

There is no need for Tressel to talk the player down or allow the media to ask for any more information than they already have.

This has been a very disappointing year only because we expected to play for a national championship. We failed in that endeavor because of personnel and planning. There is much work to do in the off-season.

Jim Tressel will retire at Ohio State as our most respected coach ever.
 
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I'm surprised that it is that big of an issue. "Ray Small Suspended" as a headline shouldn't surprise anyone. I don't think the kid has ever been out of the dog house for more than two consecutive games.

I guess the dad running his mouth kicked it up a notch.
 
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Ohio State coach Jim Tressel knows criticism of his coaching and play-calling is out there, but there has been no sign that he has been affected by it during his sessions with reporters.
Tressel acknowledges that he fields "a few" e-mails and hears some criticism, but he obviously knows his coaching position is secure. In fact, he even made it sound as if a high school coach whose team is struggling has to listen to more complaints than he does.
"I haven't been to many high school games," he said, "but the high school games I've been to, you can hear every one of those idiots clearly. And at least in our stadium, what they're yelling is muffled. And then when we're not in our stadium, we're in the film room and I don't hear a thing, other than a little country western in the background occasionally.
"I think the expectations to succeed in every job -- whether it's president, head coach, high school coach, salesperson, whatever -- the expectation to succeed at what you do is significant."
Expectations also rise when you earn more than $3 million annually.
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Just wondering: Watching how fast Tennessee put Fullmer out to pasture got me to wondering about Tressel. Coop had a winning season the year he was fired and despite losing to Michigan at an alarmingly regular rate, he still won Big 10 championships. What would it take to get Tress fired? (really, just sayin', not trying to stir up trouble) If the Bucks loose two more games this year and get pounded in a bowl game? If we loose to USC, Penn State and another bowl loss in 09 -10?
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On the Fulmer situation, Tenn has been below par since they won the NC in 1998. Tenn has averaged 3 to 4 losses a year in that period. In 2005 they were 5-6 and out of the top 25. To say that they put Fulmer out to pasture fast is not fair. Especially the way the rest of the SEC has past Tenn by in recent years.

Lets not bring up Cooper. He was 6-6 in 1999 and 8-4 in 2000 and lost the outback bowl. Both those years Ohio State was out of the top 25. If that is the standard you want your football team to aspire to, so be it. If Ohio State wins out the rest of the year, they will finish in the to 10 again. It will be the 6th year out of 8 Jim Tressel will lead this team to a top ten finish. Five of those years Ohio State was in the top five.


"What will it take to get Jim Tressel fired".
1. A complete meltdown of the program. That means lack of discipline, numerous losses to Michigan, and maybe some major scandal involving recruiting or academic violations.

Seeing the way Coach is handling the Ray Small situation, I don't see that happening.
 
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Buckeyefrankmp;1317931; said:
"What will it take to get Jim Tressel fired".
1. A complete meltdown of the program. That means lack of discipline, numerous losses to Michigan, and maybe some major scandal involving recruiting or academic violations.
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If that situation were to arise, and to me it is unthinkable, but if it were to arise, Tressel would resign well before anyone would begin an active discussion about firing him. He has too much class to not fire himself.
 
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I think Coach is feeling the heat a little.

Not in any way, shape or form that would result in his job, but he's hearing critical questions this season more than ever it seems. In the past he could dance around them and answer the questions without really answering them. He's being pushed this season and I don't think he cares for it too much.

Before those questions were drowned out by praise, but not this season. He's had questions about everything from his assistants, to his role in the offense, and now the Ray Small situation. The guys asking the questions are pressing him to actually answer them.
 
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If he wins a few of those games - the complaints would be more muffled.
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If he won one of those games there would not be any complaints. If one of the games were the NC game that is. This is nothing new for Ohio State football. Do you remember how bad the complaints were the last four or five years under Cooper the day after a loss to Michigan? Tressel is having a day in the park compared to that.
 
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1. I have nothing but respect for Tressel and the job he's done in the last 8 seasons. But Columbus is Columbus and it is the home of "What have you done for me lately?"

2. Ohio State being in the hunt for the Big 10 Championship is a given expectation. Success, the stadium expansion, the facilities upgrades over the last few years, the determination to compete/lead in so many non-revenue sports creates a need for money and breeds a difficult audiance.

3. The NC in 03 was both a blessing and a burden. It created an expectation that anyone would find damn near impossible to meet. The outside world sees only four losses to top ranked teams in three years, three of them lopsided.

4. If OSU looses its bowl game, if USC comes into Columbus and blows the Bucks out, if they lose to Penn State, then I would not be surprised to hear the call for a new coach. Woody damn near lost his job in 53 before winning a National Championship followed by another in 57 and a #1 ranking in 61. But two tough seasons, including his only losing season in 66 brought out airplanes flying streamers that read "Good By Woody." That's how tough the job is in Columbus.
 
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cincibuck;1318416; said:
1. I have nothing but respect for Tressel and the job he's done in the last 8 seasons. But Columbus is Columbus and it is the home of "What have you done for me lately?"

2. Ohio State being in the hunt for the Big 10 Championship is a given expectation. Success, the stadium expansion, the facilities upgrades over the last few years, the determination to compete/lead in so many non-revenue sports creates a need for money and breeds a difficult audiance.

3. The NC in 03 was both a blessing and a burden. It created an expectation that anyone would find damn near impossible to meet. The outside world sees only four losses to top ranked teams in three years, three of them lopsided.

4. If OSU looses its bowl game, if USC comes into Columbus and blows the Bucks out, if they lose to Penn State, then I would not be surprised to hear the call for a new coach. Woody damn near lost his job in 53 before winning a National Championship followed by another in 57 and a #1 ranking in 61. But two tough seasons, including his only losing season in 66 brought out airplanes flying streamers that read "Good By Woody." That's how asnine the fans are in Columbus.[/quote]

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Dispatch

Rob Oller commentary: Criticism finds every coach, even Tressel

Saturday, November 8, 2008 3:10 AM
By Rob Oller


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Sooner or later, Teflon wears thin. Just ask Jim Tressel. It wasn't long ago -- right after Ted Ginn Jr. returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown in the 2006 national championship game, to be exact -- that Tress was untouchable.
Today, after consecutive national championship game smackdowns, an embarrassing loss to Southern California and a disappointing loss to Penn State this season, the Coach Who Could Do No Wrong is experiencing criticism that seems to be sticking.
As it always does. Eventually.
A trip down memory lane:
Three seasons removed from winning the 1968 national championship, Woody Hayes found For Sale signs in his lawn. Seems that the fans -- make that the fringe fans, who almost always are the main culprits in over-the-top tirades -- didn't take a shine to Ohio State's 6-4 record in 1971. Never mind that the Buckeyes went Greg Oden that year with serious injuries to at least six starters, Hayes was over the hill. His methods were outdated. He needed to go.
The Buckeyes returned to the national title hunt with Hayes at the helm in 1974 and '75, but lost back-to-back Rose Bowls after those seasons -- apparently the current big-game meltdown curse is nothing new -- which only intensified the talk that Woody's ways no longer worked.
Tressel, six seasons removed from the 2002 national title, is taking heat for a lackluster offense that has failed to score a touchdown in three of its nine games this season. Like Hayes, he is being accused of holding too tightly to his playbook. Woody would entrust his offensive assistants with designing progressive plays that were used in practice but seldom saw the light of day come Saturday.
More recently, Lloyd Carr led Michigan to its first national title in 50 years in 1997 -- and was gone 11 seasons later. And the latest riches-to-rags story belongs to Phil Fulmer, who this week was pushed out at Tennessee 10 years after coaching the Vols to the 1998 national championship.
Comparing Tressel with those two coaches would be silly, because he is so far removed from facing a similar fate. Carr and Fulmer failed to win enough games, period. Tressel's win total -- he goes for No. 81 today at Northwestern, which would tie him with Earle Bruce for third-most in school history -- and winning percentage (.816) are worthy of respect, not to mention a long-term contract.
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