Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

[Oh8ch]

Thanks to all my BP brethren for being the voice of relative reason in this typhoon of insanity that has washed over the "Buckeye Nation".

Not an hour after the game I was listening to 1460 in my car. I lasted one phone call in which the caller stated that hiring JT was a mistake and Pryor was a clown. The hosts were supportive of his position.

Then I broke down and visited Scout for a chuckle and came across these gems:

Scout.com: Hineygate

Scout.com: Guiton Time


I wish these were isolated or "heat of the moment". They are, unfortunately, all too typical.

What seems to be lost in the rage over losing in West Lafayette is that if we had won it would have tied the all time (as in 100+ years) Big Ten record for consecutive road wins. Rather than applaud the effort to get us to that threshold, we trash JT for not crossing it. It is hard to go that many games on the road without getting upset. Only one coach in history has done it better.

Also, I want all the Pryor naysayers to get a mandatory tattoo on their foreheads so we can identify them next year. And I want barbed wire on the top of the JT bandwagon so it is tough to clime back on.

 

[sammyjenkis]

Also, I want all the Pryor naysayers to get a mandatory tattoo on their foreheads so we can identify them next year. And I want barbed wire on the top of the JT bandwagon so it is tough to clime back on.

Couldn't BP make some sort of icons to represent these, like the beer mugs next to peoples' join date/location/posts etc. stats?

Edit: Make them Haterade bottles?

 

[Onebuckfan]

There is no birthright to 13-0 and 12-1 records..even tOSU has had losing seasons..enjoy the wins. Life is hard enough without letting 18to 20 yr old football players steal your joy! As they say in Poker..shut up and deal...there is a game next week or a next season..this may be really insightfull or BS as I am a Cub Fan too.

 

[daddyphatsacs]

Also, I want all the Pryor naysayers to get a mandatory tattoo on their foreheads so we can identify them next year. And I want barbed wire on the top of the JT bandwagon so it is tough to clime back on.

Bingo. I was pissed in the minutes after that loss today, as we all were I'm sure. That being said, Tressel is still the man in Columbus. Pryor is still our quarterback. Sure, there are things they can both do better, but then again, I have a lot of stuff that I can get better as as well.

We still have good shot at a Big Ten title and a Rose Bowl. Wins have a way of curing all that ails you. Put the pieces back together next week and get a win, it certainly will help take the sting away.

 

[BuckeyeFan 52]

Thanks to all my BP brethren for being the voice of relative reason in this typhoon of insanity that has washed over the "Buckeye Nation".

Not an hour after the game I was listening to 1460 in my car. I lasted one phone call in which the caller stated that hiring JT was a mistake and Pryor was a clown. The hosts were supportive of his position.

Then I broke down and visited Scout for a chuckle and came across these gems:

Scout.com: Hineygate

Scout.com: Guiton Time


I wish these were isolated or "heat of the moment". They are, unfortunately, all too typical.

What seems to be lost in the rage over losing in West Lafayette is that if we had won it would have tied the all time (as in 100+ years) Big Ten record for consecutive road wins. Rather than applaud the effort to get us to that threshold, we trash JT for not crossing it. It is hard to go that many games on the road without getting upset. Only one coach in history has done it better.

Also, I want all the Pryor naysayers to get a mandatory tattoo on their foreheads so we can identify them next year. And I want barbed wire on the top of the JT bandwagon so it is tough to clime back on.

No doubt the heat has been turned up in Columbus today, and rightfully so.

I was listening to the same program you were (hosts: Mike Ricordati and Scott Torgerson), and while they were getting after OSU pretty hard, they never once endorsed that hiring Jim Tressel was a mistake, not once. That's just not true. Yes, they were tough on Pryor (again, rightfully so) and JT, but they never stated that his hiring was wrong or even that his job should currently be in jeopardy. Were they hard on Pryor? Hell yes they were, and he certainly deserves to be criticised for his performance today, but JT's hiring was never questioned.

What's wrong with having some passion for a program that you support? Yes, OSU struggled embarassingly today, and on the flip side of that, I don't always do everything right in my life either, so I understand that they're not going to win them all. But put it in perspective, they lost to a 1-5 Purdue team with a swiss cheese defense and gave up 5 sacks and just as many turnovers in the process, of which, 4 of those turnovers where on Pryor alone. This team, specifically the offense, doesn't deserve to be told that "everything is going to be OK" I'm sorry, just not today, they didn't earn that. This game was just plain terrible, and the offensive preparation (or lack thereof) falls on the coaching staff.

Coach Tressel is a smart person, but his formula for success is not producing to the level that is expected in Columbus and throghout "Buckeye Nation". Again, keeping it in perspective, he makes over $1 million dollars a year to coach this team. Let that sink in , $1 million to coach football. To coach Ohio State.....games like this are inexplicable.

 

[SEREbuckeye]

Coach Tressel is a smart person, but his formula for success is not producing to the level that is expected in Columbus and throghout "Buckeye Nation". Again, keeping it in perspective, he makes over $1 million dollars a year to coach this team. Let that sink in , $1 million to coach football. To coach Ohio State.....games like this are inexplicable.

If we didn't know the sweet taste of success, than we wouldn't feel pain in defeat.


Dude, are you drunk? Jim Tressel is a [censored] rock star:

- Michigan (7-1)
- 61 Big Ten wins in 9 years! Thats an 82% Big Ten record!
- Only 7 home losses in 9 years.
- Texas 06
- Miami 02
- K-State 03
- ND 05
- 5 Big Ten Championships (4 in a row, has us in the run for our 6th)
- Coached 13 All-Americans, 6 Academic All-Americans
- Only man to coach a team to 14-0
- Consistently in the top 10 nationally in recruiting.

And please dont get me started on his player development because the man has coached and/or recruited a winner of: Heisman, Lombardi, Walter Camp, Rimington, Davy O'Brien, Butkus, Walter-Camp, Draddy, Lott, Thorpe, Ray Guy, Lou Groza

Also, for the ones screaming for Tressel to "get lost" - go ask a YSU fan whats it like for Jim Tressel to leave. They honored the Tressel name by naming their field after them!




So, now let me ask you again: this loss to Purdue, is it really that big of a strike against JT or are have you just been spoiled by what JT has given us fans and this university???

 

[stxbuck]

No doubt the heat has been turned up in Columbus today, and rightfully so.

I was listening to the same program you were (hosts: Mike Ricordati and Scott Torgerson), and while they were getting after OSU pretty hard, they never once endorsed that hiring Jim Tressel was a mistake, not once. That's just not true. Yes, they were tough on Pryor (again, rightfully so) and JT, but they never stated that his hiring was wrong or even that his job should currently be in jeopardy. Were they hard on Pryor? Hell yes they were, and he certainly deserves to be criticised for his performance today, but JT's hiring was never questioned.

What's wrong with having some passion for a program that you support? Yes, OSU struggled embarassingly today, and on the flip side of that, I don't always do everything right in my life either, so I understand that they're not going to win them all. But put it in perspective, they lost to a 1-5 Purdue team with a swiss cheese defense and gave up 5 sacks and just as many turnovers in the process, of which, 4 of those turnovers where on Pryor alone. This team, specifically the offense, doesn't deserve to be told that "everything is going to be OK" I'm sorry, just not today, they didn't earn that. This game was just plain terrible, and the offensive preparation (or lack thereof) falls on the coaching staff.

Coach Tressel is a smart person, but his formula for success is not producing to the level that is expected in Columbus and throghout "Buckeye Nation". Again, keeping it in perspective, he makes over $1 million dollars a year to coach this team. Let that sink in , $1 million to coach football. To coach Ohio State.....games like this are inexplicable.

For far too many Buckeye fans, "passion" means screaming for blood every time a loss occurs, or the offense scores under 30 points. Was I annoyed w/ Pryor and the OL today-you betcha. Was I screaming after the game for Tressel to be canned b/c he make $1 million a year-no, that is insane, and anyone who has actually coached the game would understand that.
To excuse the immature sense of entitlement that many Buckeye fans have as "passion", is like condoning the actions of a lynch mob in Alabama in 1930, b/c the mob was concerned about a criminal receiving "justice".

 

[BuckeyeFan 52]

If we didn't know the sweet taste of success, than we wouldn't feel pain in defeat.


Dude, are you drunk? Jim Tressel is a [censored] rock star:

- Michigan (7-1)
- 61 Big Ten wins in 9 years! Thats an 82% Big Ten record!
- Only 7 home losses in 9 years.
- Texas 06
- Miami 02
- K-State 03
- ND 05
- 5 Big Ten Championships (4 in a row, has us in the run for our 6th)
- Coached 13 All-Americans, 6 Academic All-Americans
- Only man to coach a team to 14-0
- Consistently in the top 10 nationally in recruiting.

And please dont get me started on his player development because the man has coached and/or recruited a winner of: Heisman, Lombardi, Walter Camp, Rimington, Davy O'Brien, Butkus, Walter-Camp, Draddy, Lott, Thorpe, Ray Guy, Lou Groza

Also, for the ones screaming for Tressel to "get lost" - go ask a YSU fan whats it like for Jim Tressel to leave. They honored the Tressel name by naming their field after them!




So, now let me ask you again: this loss to Purdue, is it really that big of a strike against JT or are have you just been spoiled by what JT has given us fans and this university???

Perfectly sober here [censored].

I wasn't bashing Tressel whatsoever, I think he's a great coach. I'm well aware of his accompishments, I've been around long enough to see all of them. I was not condoning that JT be fired or even that his job be in jeopardy, so I'm not sure why you're throwing out all of his successes while at OSU.

Am I "spoiled" by the success that we've had while JT has been here?? Probably to some degree, but since when is he given a free pass for a loss such as this today? Ever since the USC game I've heard, "OSU may lose to elite teams, but Tress always beats the teams he SHOULD beat".......that's not always true. Tress has certainly won the majority of the games he's coached here, and I'm very thankful for that, but he's also lost a fair share of games that he SHOULD not have, including Purdue today.

There is no arguing it, Purdue is one of (if not the) worst teams in the Big Ten, and we got our asses handed to us today. That's the bottom line, so no, I don't give JT a pass for that. I understand that we lose to a good Florida team , a good LSU team, a good Texas team. But I don't understand how we lose to a really bad Purdue team, especially the way we lost. I'm sorry, it was just embarassing.

Jim Tressel has developed some great football players, I never said he didn't. But he has not developed very many offensive lineman or QB's who have moved on to be successful at the next level. The man has been here 8 years now. What's been our biggest weakness year in and year out (taking away 2006)? Offensive production. The numbers don't lie, we don't move the ball down the field. We don't put pressure on the opposing defenses. It doesn't happen. Unfortunately, that falls back on JT.

Let me answer you: this game does not help JT in any way. The coach is not going anywhere, nor do I want him to, but this game is a black eye to a program that has been built on pounding the Purdue's of the world into the ground year in and year out. Coach Tressel lost to a bad football team today, he lost to a team that is inferior to his own squad. He makes a lot of money to make sure that doesn't happen. Yes, this is a strike in my opinion.

 

[scarletngray]

Typical meltdown by the fickel fan that happens at EVERY school. Should have seen what the USC board was saying when they lost to Washington.

As far as the statement This team, specifically the offense, doesn't deserve to be told that "everything is going to be OK" I'm sorry, just not today, they didn't earn that.

You couldn't be more wrong. First, they DO deserve to be told that
because it's the truth. Not that that's important to you after this "inexplicable", tragic loss. I'll say it again, "EVERYThING IS GOING TO BE OK!! Second, they deserve it because they bust their butts everyday in practice. This is a game, not life and death. Just because they had a bad day doesn't mean you twist the knife. You would like for them to feel even more miserable than they do right now?

I can only hope that you do not have any children. If you do, I pity your son when he pitches a bad game. Make sure you don't tell him that it's OK when he's crying on the way home. Make him feel even worse for the bad performance. That's how you teach em a good lesson.....

:osu:

 

[BuckeyeFan 52]

For far too many Buckeye fans, "passion" means screaming for blood every time a loss occurs, or the offense scores under 30 points. Was I annoyed w/ Pryor and the OL today-you betcha. Was I screaming after the game for Tressel to be canned b/c he make $1 million a year-no, that is insane, and anyone who has actually coached the game would understand that.
To excuse the immature sense of entitlement that many Buckeye fans have as "passion", is like condoning the actions of a lynch mob in Alabama in 1930, b/c the mob was concerned about a criminal receiving "justice".

I agree 100%.

As I mentioned in my previous post, I'm in not condoning in any way, shape, or form that JT's position as coach should be in jeopardy, I never said that, I don't think that. I have a lot of coaches in my family, football and otherwise, I understand the mentality of a coach. Tress is as upset as anyone today over this game, the coaching staff works 23 hours a day, 7 days a week preparing so these things don't happen.

I get it.

 

[jwinslow]

Probably to some degree, but since when is he given a free pass for a loss such as this today?

There's an enormous difference between giving someone a free pass and engaging in the cliff jumping & emotional meltdowns that are a staple of The Fan programming, and even worse when hours of analysis are provided by Ricordati and The Torg. I'm pretty sure listeners get dumber just from listening to them.

Would you say the talk on The Fan is reasonable and civil in their reactions to the game? Or emotional and unfair?

but he's also lost a fair share of games that he SHOULD not have, including Purdue today.

fair share? If by fair share, you mean 1 every year or two, then I guess you've got a pretty tough measuring stick for that definition.

 

[BuckeyeFan 52]

Typical meltdown by the fickel fan that happens at EVERY school. Should have seen what the USC board was saying when they lost to Washington.

As far as the statement This team, specifically the offense, doesn't deserve to be told that "everything is going to be OK" I'm sorry, just not today, they didn't earn that.

You couldn't be more wrong. First, they DO deserve to be told that
because it's the truth. Not that that's important to you after this "inexplicable", tragic loss. I'll say it again, "EVERYThING IS GOING TO BE OK!! Second, they deserve it because they bust their butts everyday in practice. This is a game, not life and death. Just because they had a bad day doesn't mean you twist the knife. You would like for them to feel even more miserable than they do right now?

I can only hope that you do not have any children. If you do, I pity your son when he pitches a bad game. Make sure you don't tell him that it's OK when he's crying on the way home. Make him feel even worse for the bad performance. That's how you teach em a good lesson.....

:osu:

I'm not the fan who is "freaking out," and overreacting, if that's how I'm coming across, then I'm sorry. When I said the quote that you highighted above, I simply meant that from a football standpoint, not from a life or death standpoint. Of course life will go on, it's just a football game......i'm definitely being misunderstood here.

 

[jwinslow]

I think you're doing a good job clarifying yourself, 52... but I'm not going to pass on a shot at 97.1's programming. It's sad that I can't listen to my own home team's radio station without getting upset in under 15 minutes, unless it's the national talk shows.

 

[BuckeyeFan 52]

There's an enormous difference between giving someone a free pass and engaging in the cliff jumping & emotional meltdowns that are a staple of The Fan programming, and even worse when hours of analysis are provided by Ricordati and The Torg. I'm pretty sure listeners get dumber just from listening to them.

Would you say the talk on The Fan is reasonable and civil in their reactions to the game? Or emotional and unfair?
fair share? If by fair share, you mean 1 every year or two, then I guess you've got a pretty tough measuring stick for that definition.

I guess I'm saying all of the wrong things tonight. I don't support what The Fan is saying, whether it be The Torg or whomever, I was just stating that I happened to be listening to the same radio show and the show never mentioned that the hiring JT was a mistake, at least I never heard it. That's all I was saying.

Yes, I do have a pretty tough measuring stick, I think we all do. Let me make this clear: I like Coach Tressel. I'm proud that he is our coach. I do not want coach Tressel to go anywhere. The End.

 

[jwinslow]

But what color are the buckeye leaves...