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Jadeveon Clowney (DE Carolina Panthers)

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I can't see suspending a player for traffic violations. This sort of "outrage" makes Buckeye fans look like dweebs IMO.

Traffic violations deserve driving-related sanctions (probably in his case including license suspension). Not football-related ones.
 
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MaxBuck said:
I can't see suspending a player for traffic violations. This sort of "outrage" makes Buckeye fans look like dweebs IMO.

Traffic violations deserve driving-related sanctions (probably in his case including license suspension). Not football-related ones.
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Reckless driving (let alone twice back to back) isn't seen as a mere traffic violation in the law or by most people.

I don't know what Bullough was suspended for, but I bet it was a smaller issue.
And god knows the media flipping out about Hall and his punishment was for something far less than endangering people's lives and illegal behavior that's probably resulted in him losing his license.
 
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Bullough "broke team rules," so his punishment was set by the coach a priori. And Hall's actions took place following his ejection from a football game, in a football stadium, so football-related punishment was appropriate (though I agree it seemed excessive).

Clowney's actions were in an automobile, having nothing to do with either team rules or football. So traffic court is the right place for his punishment to be determined IMO.
 
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MaxBuck said:
Bullough "broke team rules," so his punishment was set by the coach a priori. And Hall's actions took place following his ejection from a football game, in a football stadium, so football-related punishment was appropriate (though I agree it seemed excessive).

Clowney's actions were in an automobile, having nothing to do with either team rules or football. So traffic court is the right place for his punishment to be determined IMO.
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I am betting there's a code of conduct that has been violated......oh wait, silly me this is Spurrier and an SEC team....move along nothing to see here..
 
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MaxBuck said:
Bullough "broke team rules," so his punishment was set by the coach a priori. And Hall's actions took place following his ejection from a football game, in a football stadium, so football-related punishment was appropriate (though I agree it seemed excessive).

Clowney's actions were in an automobile, having nothing to do with either team rules or football. So traffic court is the right place for his punishment to be determined IMO.
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As Urban originally said, Hall's actions were already punished in that game.
I never knew being ejected from a game meant the team should automatically suspend you for another one...
Flipping the shithouse off is a far less issue than speeding 20-30mph over the speed limit... which, again, isn't mere traffic court in every (most?) state.
 
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I'm not sure what states you drive in, but my daughter's early driving record demonstrated pretty conclusively that 30 over the limit gets nothing more than a ticket (albeit an expensive one) pretty much everywhere.
 
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MaxBuck said:
I'm not sure what states you drive in, but my daughter's early driving record demonstrated pretty conclusively that 30 over the limit gets nothing more than a ticket (albeit an expensive one) pretty much everywhere.
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Since you asked
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.500

(1) Any person who drives any vehicle in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving. Violation of the provisions of this section is a gross misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for up to three hundred sixty-four days and by a fine of not more than five thousand dollars.
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http://www.denver-attorney.us/lawyer-attorney-1845889.html

In addition to the points on your driver’s license, this offense also carries a possible penalty in county court of 10 days to 90 days in jail and a fine of $150 to $300, not to mention increased auto insurance premiums. A second conviction in county court can land you in jail for at least ten (10) days, up to six (6) months, and a fine of $50 to $1000.

Municipal court reckless driving charges typically carry a maximum penalty of one (1) year in jail and/or a $1000.00 fine.

Reckless driving is also a habitual traffic offender strike. This means that if a person is convicted of three (3) major traffic offenses (8 points and above) in a seven (7) year period, she will lose her driver’s license for five (5) years.

Police, sheriff, and state patrol officers in Colorado seem to be becoming more liberal in charging reckless driving combined with speeding tickets twenty-five (25) miles per hour or more over the posted limit on Colorado highways. Thus, a brief error in a driver’s judgment can quickly turn into a situation where a good driver is facing the loss of his/her license and significant jail time at the hands of an overzealous officer.
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Reckless driving is generally closer to being in the same category as DUI; it's quite different than you run-of-the-mill 5-15mph speeding ticket.
 
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Im going to throw it out there that i think clowney will flop in the NFL. Very elite athlete, strong and fast. But his football IQ seems average at best. If his coach didnt pound it into his head he would have overrun on the outside all day long and let wisky run behind him. He just runs for the quarterback rather then trying to read the defense and really stop the run. In the NFL he wont have that size and speed advantage and his low IQ will show. Just my 2 pennies.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
I'm with Tampa. You can't just use athletic ability to dominate in the NFL. You need it to be great but you also need a strong work ethic and football acumen.
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