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shiznit7 said:
To me, this move is the difference between making a NC game and winning one. Alabama is out here filling assistant coach vacancies with former NFL head coaches. Day is internally promoting a QC coach for the second year in a row. Meh, indeed.
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Agreed! Alabama really has an advantage with former head coaches taking little or no pay to just be an analyst.

Hopefully this works out because this could backfire obviously if it doesnt.
 
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I like the move and would like to think that it was at least partially planned. Clearly, Mattison wasn't going to stay forever and I'm guessing that Hafley was supposed to be the guy. He jumped early and Mattison stayed on until, hopefully, Barnes and Fleming were ready. I don't think Day just fills junior slots with bodies. I could be wrong, obviously, but I think the staff is set up to use the QC positions as a farm team. Could this shuffle work? Yes. Could it be meh or worse? Certainly, but I don't think we'd be seeing it if Day thought that was likely.
 
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Going to talk myself into the re-organizing and be okay with it, but so help me if that side of the ball wastes the talent on offense and costs the team next year, I’ll be lighting this thread up.

I don’t love it but it is what it is. Coombs is THE man now with no excuses and Barnes needs to show his players can defend the pass.

“I just want to tell you both good luck. We’re all counting on you.”
 
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Not exciting, but I think part of this is OSU having 4 different DCs or pairings of DCs in 4 years. This is Day's first big test IMO.

I get wanting to hire former HCs and NFL coaches. Sometimes that works and sometimes it's a disaster with those egos. I don't think Day is ready or interested in dealing with that shit. Also, I'm kinda sick of hearing for the past 3 weeks about doing everything exactly as Bama does it. I get it, they smacked OSU around, but there are other ways to win than filling your staff with former HCs.

And honestly a new face isn't going to suddenly provide OSU with guys like Battle or Ricks that they need to run their defense. Right now, Banks is a very good corner and everyone else is a question mark. If they can get the pass defense down to 50 or 60th next year and sign 4-5 elite DBs, that'd be a big win IMO.
 
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1926Buckeyes said:
Not exciting, but I think part of this is OSU having 4 different DCs or pairings of DCs in 4 years. This is Day's first big test IMO.

I get wanting to hire former HCs and NFL coaches. Sometimes that works and sometimes it's a disaster with those egos. I don't think Day is ready or interested in dealing with that shit. Also, I'm kinda sick of hearing for the past 3 weeks about doing everything exactly as Bama does it. I get it, they smacked OSU around, but there are other ways to win than filling your staff with former HCs.

And honestly a new face isn't going to suddenly provide OSU with guys like Battle or Ricks that they need to run their defense. Right now, Banks is a very good corner and everyone else is a question mark. If they can get the pass defense down to 50 or 60th next year and sign 4-5 elite DBs, that'd be a big win IMO.
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When has that ever been “a big win” at OSU? What happened to BIA?
 
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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ement-in-promoting-matt-barnes-parker-fleming

“How do we keep continuity on that side of the ball, and how do we continue to just build what we’ve been working on here for a couple years and put the right people into place. I think when you bring in somebody new, that brings in a different dynamic, and certainly looked at some of those things. But I thought this did two things, though: One, it kept continuity, but two, it put a little bit more attention on the back end. And coming off of that last game, coming off of this season, I think that’s something we had to do,” Day said.
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This quote provokes many questions. But the main question is: if THIS move puts more attention on the secondary, WTF WAS HAPPENING LAST YEAR?! THE SAME TWO PEOPLE ARE WORKING IN THE ROOM.
 
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Smells like a budget issue created by COVID to me.

While many schools have shutdown non-revenue programs OSU hasn’t and still operates the largest department in the country.

It would have made more sense to me if they bumped up a GA with a defensive background.

Do most schools have a dedicated ST coach.
It seems rule changes have significantly reduced the role of special teams.

Sidebar - have we replaced Ryan Stamper? Will we? Is this position be cut out?

Who and when will the GA be named to replace Fleming.
 
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cdiddy70 said:
Smells like a budget issue created by COVID to me.

While many schools have shutdown non-revenue programs OSU hasn’t and still operates the largest department in the country.

It would have made more sense to me if they bumped up a GA with a defensive background.

Do most schools have a dedicated ST coach.
It seems rule changes have significantly reduced the role of special teams.

Sidebar - have we replaced Ryan Stamper? Will we? Is this position be cut out?

Who and when will the GA be named to replace Fleming.
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Diddy should know that a GA and a quality control coach are not the same thing.
 
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We made the National Championship game with our best corner coming off major surgery(according to his father) , a first year starter at safety and opposite corner, lack of depth, another best option corner lost for the season with a blown ACL and spring practice interrupted and Covid interrupted games issues all season. And little pass rush from our defensive ends. But it's all on Coombs to work some miracles right? The lack of a consistent pass rush was glaring all season.

Barnes being promoted is not an "exciting" option but may work out in the end with a little more help from a pass rush.
Fleming doing special teams will probably be at least OK.
 
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Our talent was down in the secondary.
Lost a couple first rounders and another guy who starts in the nfl.
We had some other attrition and a significant injury.
We had a couple down years in db recruiting that came home to roost.
It’s why I was surprised we didn’t hit the tranny portal.
But pass rush wasn’t the issue.
I like Coombs.
Just surprised we filled a $1mm dc position with basically and intern making minimum wage who hasn’t coached defense in his life and will focus on special teams.

Do teams even have dedicated st coaches?
If so why.
The return game is obsolete with the rules changes.
 
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This is an excerpt from a Bill Landis article ($) that posted on The Athletic yesterday. Just some food for thought (our feelings about William Swinney notwithstanding):

It feels as though Day, for now anyway, is taking an approach similar to that of Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney, a serial in-house promoter. When Chad Morris left in 2014, Swinney elevated running backs coach Tony Elliott and receivers coach Jeff Scott to co-offensive coordinators. Three of Swinney’s last four hires have been promotions. Tyler Grisham was promoted from analyst to receivers coach when Scott left after the 2019 season. Lemanski Hall was promoted from analyst to defensive ends coach in 2018 when programs were permitted to add a 10th assistant. Mickey Conn was promoted from analyst to safeties coach in 2017.

Swinney has had remarkable staff continuity, an underrated element of Clemson’s rise to becoming a national power. That doesn’t guarantee Day will have success going a similar route, but it does show this path can work if you’re developing the right kind of coaches in your program.
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