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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

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vrbryant said:
I totally agree. And if my latency/absenteeism is the problem, I would have appreciated them telling me that, rather than simply saying, "We want to change your job! What's that? You don't want us to change your job? Huh. Well, best of luck elsewhere, sucker."
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Bingo. I mentioned that earlier. It seems completely disingenuous to me...

:lol: We're talking about a guy who (no joke) walks the length of the office to give me back a document so I can insert a comma.
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:rofl: I wish I could say he was kidding. And, yes... as the resident IT girl, I've suggested such things... he's a total technophobe... he likes his paper and pen, damn it...
 
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Steve19 said:
But NorthShore, can they allow assymetry in the way they treat vr as opposed to others? Can they alter their basic conditions of employment? Can they alter his conditions of employment, indicate a change of job function, declare him unsuitable and then return to the original job? Again, I am not there but I have run some small and big companies there and here and I don't think that stuff would be legal anywhere.

Being a small company allows you certain latitude but basic law must still hold? Am I right, some of you legal guys chirp okay?
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Well, the bottom line is that Ohio is an employment-at-will state. I see your points, but, knowing the situation, I'm pretty certain there's no legal recourse.

Especially for a young, white male...



Oh, and thanks for the concern, FCB... but I'm also the in-house IT girl, so I've disabled the "resume" alarm... :biggrin:
 
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Well.. im probably too bold and gutsy but if I were both of you, Id get on up right now, gather my shit and be out the door...

It sounds like they think they are comparable with Jones Day, SZD and places like that...

or...

"what Im gonna need you to do is... umm, yeah... we're gonna have to move you........."

Seriously though, how could anyone be expected to work in an environment like that... Id ass and elbows and never look back...
 
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PrincessPeach said:
Well, the bottom line is that Ohio is an employment-at-will state. I see your points, but, knowing the situation, I'm pretty certain there's no legal recourse.

Especially for a young, white male...
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File unemployment and sit on a street corner drinking cheap beer on the government's dime.
 
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Bucky Katt said:
File unemployment and sit on a street corner drinking cheap beer on the government's dime.
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Wish I could. But my dumb ass agreed to resign. Funny how they didn't bother informing me what voluntary resignation entailed.

RugbyBuck said:
Lawyers are assholes. Move on.
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Definitely the most condescending single group/classification of people I've encountered.
 
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NOB, I see most of your points and understand businesses are in existence to make money, and that there are significant differences between "office firms" and big companies. I just don't see where 6 sick days in 6 months is excessive. I'm retired military, so I spent all my adult life under the system where you were where you were supposed to be, on time...period. But, he's not, and from what I got from his initial diatribe, he was supposed to be there at 8:00 just to get things spun up for the rest who came in at 8:30. If he got there at 8:10 or 8:20 a couple times while still getting things ready for them on time, I don't see a whole lot of problem.

It's pretty clear to me that The Firm is all in a hissy fit because vr didn't outright subordinate his life to The Firm, and no they are simply using the excuse of his "tardiness" and "excess absenteeism" as a cop-out to dump him. If he were really that bad, why'd they even offer him the increase in responsibility in the first place?
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
It's pretty clear to me that The Firm is all in a hissy fit because vr didn't outright subordinate his life to The Firm, and no they are simply using the excuse of his "tardiness" and "excess absenteeism" as a cop-out to dump him. If he were really that bad, why'd they even offer him the increase in responsibility in the first place?
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Actually, I would have guessed the opposite: That they're using my lack of a company hard-on to boot me for being tardy. But the question stands. Why offer me the paralegal position at all? I guess they were thinking, "Either he really, really wants to do it and we'll let him, or he only sorta wants to do it and we'll force him to resign." *shrug*

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Shit. Can you rescind it and make them fire you?
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I would wager against that, but if I'm somehow without prospects in a week or so, I'm going to broach the subject. I'm not too proud to take free money.
 
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vrbryant said:
Actually, I would have guessed the opposite: That they're using my lack of a company hard-on to boot me for being tardy. But the question stands. Why offer me the paralegal position at all? I guess they were thinking, "Either he really, really wants to do it and we'll let him, or he only sorta wants to do it and we'll force him to resign." *shrug*
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My take, for what it's worth, is that you gave them exactly the answer they were hoping for. They gave you an offer they were pretty certain you'd refuse... that gave them the excuse they were looking for. I still don't understand why they needed to orchestrate this, though... other than to get that letter of resignation and avoid paying unemployment. Any other way, and they would have had to have fired you.
 
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