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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1912123; said:
But, the SEC does suck.... admit it, Gator. :p
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We KICK YOUR ASS in co-eds wearing skimpy sun dresses, both in numbers of - and in length of time wearing each year. Deal, Mr. Association of American Universities are as common in the Big-10 as goiters in an Alabama trailer park Man!! Not everyone can afford the fancy iodized salt! :pissed:
 
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BUCKYLE;1912024; said:
To me, this is like Clinton lying over a blowjob. Sure, he shouldn't have lied...but a blowjob isn't illegal, and the guys selling their own shit shouldn't be either. The fact that the same "governing body" that is responsible for punishing everyone involved is the same corrupt group of hypocrites cashing the fucking checks with "Pryor" written in the memo line just makes me fucking sick.
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This argument sucks. It is against the rules that Pryor agreed to follow when he decided to play college football. He broke them. He has to deal with the punishment, so does Tressel. Not much else to it.

It doesn't matter if we agree with it or not. You can't just go walking around breaking rules and expect to not be punished just because you think it's bullshit.
 
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3074326;1912151; said:
This argument sucks. It is against the rules that Pryor agreed to follow when he decided to play college football. He broke them. He has to deal with the punishment, so does Tressel. Not much else to it.

It doesn't matter if we agree with it or not. You can't just go walking around breaking rules and expect to not be punished just because you think it's bullshit.
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You're constitution for our Founding Fathers, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks and that kid who stood in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square is weak.
 
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[quote='BusNative;191215;4]You're constitution for our Founding Fathers, Harriet Tubman and Rosa Parks and that kid who stood in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square is weak.[/quote]

This rule is no great injustice. It makes a lot of sense. Take this rule away and a handful of schools have such an advantage that recruits would have no reason to go anywhere else.

I really just hate the argument that it's a bullshit rule. It doesn't matter. They still put their own needs ahead of the team and coaches.. that's what's bullshit about the entire situation. And it appears that Tressel also put their needs ahead of the rest of the team. Also bullshit.
 
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[quote='BusNative;191215;4]You're constitution for our Founding Fathers, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks and that kid who stood in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square is weak.[/quote]

Damn straight.

Coach Tressel in front of a tank matches what you said.

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The rest not so much. :lol:
 
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jwinslow;1912157; said:
Selling their stuff should be illegal (to prevent abuse), but so should the rampant exploitation of laughable "anonymous" #2 jerseys by the school and sponsors.
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You don't like it, don't sign on the dotted line.

Players know what they're getting into when they go to a place like OSU.

If you're that good, your money will come in the NFL.
 
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[quote='BusNative;191216;2]True, kids should just opt for that viable path outside of NCAA football to a career playing professional football...[/quote]

Hey man, part of the deal.

Also, don't buy the BS about these guys being poor college students.

These guys get money from everywhere.
 
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[quote='BusNative;191216;2]True, kids should just opt for that viable path outside of NCAA football to a career playing professional football...[/quote]
Or any another of 10,000 jobs only around 250 new players make the NFL every year..a scholarship doesn't guarantee an NFL career..from MoC to Leaf and so on..take the education...abide by the rules
 
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I understand the argument that kids are tokens. It has validity.

However, these kids, many of whom would not even be accepted into these schools if they were not big, fast, and strong, are given what many kids would love to have...free education, public adoration and social status on a pedestal, and doors opened for the rest of their lives that all of us would love to have.

With those perks comes the public criticism, the pressure, etc...but they hold the golden ticket of opportunity. Many of these kids use that opportunity the way it was intended and lead great lives with or without professional sports. However, those that abuse those perks deserve the set punishment not excuses for why they chose otherwise.

Change the rules as needed...but when you know the consequences and break the rules anyway, that is tough to defend.
 
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Systems_id;1912064; said:
Exactly. Tress lying to the NCAA is like lying to Mafia about a traffic ticket or something. Sure you shouldn't do it but it's not like the NCAA has a moral leg to stand on here.
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So we're judging Jim Tressel's actions by who he was talking too, now?

It doesn't matter what Cam Newton did. It doesn't matter what the NCAA did. What matters is what Jim Tressel did. He didn't just lie to the NCAA. He withheld information from the compliance department and his boss and publicly disgraced his employer as a result. In most jobs that would be instant termination. It's a little more than a traffic ticket.

I like JT but the rationalizations I see being offered to excuse his actions are killing me. If I'm ever busted I want some members of BP to write OpEds on my behalf. I've seen some pretty creative stuff here.
 
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