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How Does Carlos Hyde Compare to Other Great tOSU TB's?

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Where Does Carlos Hyde Rank Compared to Other Great tOSU TB's?

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    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 2nd

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 3rd

    Votes: 11 19.6%

  • 4th

    Votes: 7 12.5%

  • 5th

    Votes: 18 32.1%

  • 6th

    Votes: 10 17.9%

  • 7th

    Votes: 5 8.9%

  • 8th

    Votes: 3 5.4%

  • 9th

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • 10th

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Total voters
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cincibuck said:
Let me just say this, I was lucky to see everyone who is on that list play. All of them provided great moments. However, though the stats don't show it, Keith Byars, prior to his broken foot, stands out as the most incredible back in a list of great backs.

Also, there are some excellent backs who don't make the list including Hopalong, Harley, Horvath, Janowicz, and you could add Clark, Ferguson, Snell and Warfield. Their records are affected by shorter seasons, fewer bowl games and in some cases, single platoon football.
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You could also add John Brockington, whose name doesn't come up often enough when fans discuss great Buckeye backs. Jim Otis was another great one.
 
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MaxBuck said:
You could also add John Brockington, whose name doesn't come up often enough when fans discuss great Buckeye backs. Jim Otis was another great one.
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Both Otis and Brockington were fullbacks, and are listed as such by Ohio State.

Between Hopalong Cassady and Archie Griffin, Ohio State ran a fullback oriented offense. Five Buckeye fullbacks were named All Americans during that time:

1958: Bob White (led team with 859 yards and 9 TDs)
1960: Bob Ferguson (led team with 853 yards and 9 TDs)
1961: Bob Ferguson (led team with 938 yards and 9 TDs; won Maxwell Award, placed second in Heisman, led team to the FWAA national title)
1969: Jim Otis (led team with 1,027 yards and 9 TDs; first Buckeye to crack 1,000 mark)
1970: John Brockington (led team with 1,142 yards and 10 TDs)

Since 1970, the Buckeyes have not had an All American fullback, and they probably will never have another one.
 
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And quarterbacks didn't pass in the single wing... Maybe everyone behind the LOS should be called "a back" and what ever they achieve in terms of passing or running should be accounted for as "a back."

Fullback meant the person playing deepest in the backfield, thus Ferguson AND Carlos were fullbacks, much of what Brax does is from the fullback position, and Matt Keller was one of the best blocking halfbacks in Ohio State history.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Here's the list, in alphabetical order:

01. Keith Byars: 3,200 yards, 5.2 ypc, 86.5 ypg, 46 TD; AA in 1984
02. Maurice Clarett: 1,237 yards, 5.6 ypc, 112.5 ypg, 16 TD
03. Eddie George: 3,768 yards, 5.5 ypc, 78.5 ypg, 44 TD; AA in 1995, Heisman in 1995
04. Archie Griffin: 5,589 yards, 6.0 ypc, 121.5 ypg, 26 TD; AA in 1973-74-75; Heisman in 1974-75
05. Carlos Hyde: 3,202 yards, 6.1 ypc, 78.1 ypg, 37 TD
06. Antonio Pittman: 2,945 yards, 5.3 ypc, 84.1 ypg, 22 TD
07. Robert Smith: 1,945 yards, 6.0 ypc, 88.4 ypg, 18 TD
08. Carlos Snow: 2,999 yards, 4.9 ypc, 71.4 ypg, 30 TD; #2 all time in all-purpose yards
09. Tim Spencer: 3,553 yards, 5.5 ypc, 75.6 ypg, 36 TD
10. Beanie Wells: 3,382 yards, 5.8 ypc, 93.9 ypg, 30 TD
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I didn't vote in the poll b/c I can't fairly vote him against players I never saw.
So, in my lifetime ...

1. Eddie
2. Hyde -- was clutch this year. He might have had a better line, but he did a lot after contact on his own too.
3. Beanie -- more talented, but just never put it all together with the injury bug; missed several key games
4. Pittman -- was also clutch in a number of important games
5. Pepe Pearson -- he's not listed but he was always one of my favorites. Antonio reminded me a lot of him too.
6. Clarett -- more talented than most of this list, but 1 season doesn't get you farther than this imo.
 
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I'll play 'what if' and put Hyde in the top three. Easily.

Seven more carries per game puts him at 25 per. And eclipses the 2000 yard mark in only 11 games. 25 per for 14 games, and we're looking at 2500 yards, and possibly the ALL TIME single season record, not just Ohio State.

Eddie rushed the ball 325 times in '95.
El Guapo rushed the ball 182 times in '13.

Perspective is a funny thing.
 
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No one is above criticism. No one.
Carlos needed those additional carries.
More importantly, the DEFENSE needed him to have those additional carries.

It is what it is, and Urban is one heck of a good coach, but even with the defensive woes, Urban could have, and more importantly, SHOULD HAVE ridden Hyde to the National Championship. I guaran-damn-tee you Tressel would have.

2013 could have been a season for the ages. Instead it was a season squandered. It sucks having to eat one's words, but 2013 could have used a lot more Dave.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
No one is above criticism. No one.
Carlos needed those additional carries.
More importantly, the DEFENSE needed him to have those additional carries.

It is what it is, and Urban is one heck of a good coach, but even with the defensive woes, Urban could have, and more importantly, SHOULD HAVE ridden Hyde to the National Championship. I guaran-damn-tee you Tressel would have.

2013 could have been a season for the ages. Instead it was a season squandered. It sucks having to eat one's words, but 2013 could have used a lot more Dave.
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Agreed. Sometimes it's best to work with what you've got.
 
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