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Heisman 2012 vBet and discussion

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His numbers were great overall...the problem is they only played three teams worth anything. Bama, Florida and LSU. His numbers in those three games...

74/117 63% 234 passing yards per game 2TD 3INT 60 yards rushing per game and 1 rushing TD And his team went 1-2

The rest of the games they played were against some pretty big time softies. Makes Ohio State's schedule look like murders row.
 
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JXC said:
His numbers were great overall...the problem is they only played three teams worth anything. Bama, Florida and LSU. His numbers in those three games...

74/117 63% 234 passing yards per game 2TD 3INT 60 yards rushing per game and 1 rushing TD And his team went 1-2

The rest of the games they played were against some pretty big time softies. Makes Ohio State's schedule look like murders row.
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I'd say do the same for Teo but he didn't even show up in his biggest games.
 
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The Heisman has become nothing but an offensive award. The only way for a defensive player to win the Heisman is to have a tackle on every play of every game. Defensive stats will never compare to total yards and TD's. It's not fair.
 
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OhioState001;2274754; said:
Only missing two tackles all season. I think Shazier missed at least two tackles a game. How many times did you see a pass bounce of Te'os hands vs. Shaziers. Te'o didn't leave any plays on the field which I think puts him in a class by himself this year.
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JFC, just offer to give Te'o head already...
 
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OhioState001 said:
How can you say that though? Notre Dame's defense was always solid. Can you point to any players where Teo clearly screwed up?
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NDs defense is a hell of a lot more than just Teo. he's got defensive linemen who might just be better players than he is. just because he supposedly didn't screw up, you want to name him the best player in college football?

who is to say he didn't screw up? if he is completely out of position on a play, he doesn't get marked as missing a tackle because he's no where near the play when the tackle is made.

when I watch an entire ND game and the guy only shows up one freaking time halfway through the 3rd quarter, I find it hard for me to justify naming him the best player in CFB.
 
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I think the right player has won the award for two years straight, even though their team wasn't in contention for a national title either time.

That's a good thing, the award was too often 'the best player on the best team' recently.

I don't think that Te'o had the impact on games that Suh or Glenn Dorsey had during their last years in college.

And the Heisman is a 1-year award. It's good that a freshmen won it - career stats shouldn't matter, otherwise Montee Ball could have been seriously considered this year.

I'm also glad that ND didn't get their 8th trophy. But I'll now root for almost anybody besides Manziel for the next couple of years, in order for Archie's achievement to stay unique.
 
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BB73 said:
I think the right player has won the award for two years straight, even though their team wasn't in contention for a national title either time.

That's a good thing, the award was too often 'the best player on the best team' recently.

I don't think that Te'o had the impact on games that Suh or Glenn Dorsey had during their last years in college.

And the Heisman is a 1-year award. It's good that a freshmen won it - career stats shouldn't matter, otherwise Montee Ball could have been seriously considered this year.

I' also glad that ND didn't get their 8th trophy. But I'll now root for almost anybody besides Manziel for the next couple of years, in order for Archie's achievement to stay unique.
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it's OK. we've got at least the next one. something tells me the mighty SEC is going to catch up to mr manziel.
 
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But I'll now root for almost anybody besides Manziel for the next couple of years, in order for Archie's achievement to stay unique.
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It'll be interesting to see if Manziel stays eligible through the Johnny Football merchandising mess.
 
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Braxton will be one of the finalists next year for sure and could very well win, but Manziel now has 3 more years to share the 2 time award with Archie, no one else has had that many opportunities. Dunno if thats right, I'd rather Archie remain alone in that category. Would rather Klien won the award personally, I think he was more deserving. Manziel has the stats, but he was 1-2 in big games.
 
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Cool anecdote with Manti's parents and Manziel's. Proud of this guy though, just says all the right things and a good ambassador for the university.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6WvTVoUvoQ&feature=player_embedded"]Manti Te'o Post-Heisman Media Session.mov - YouTube[/ame]
 
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