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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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NFBuck said:
Basic framework is fine. I don't necessarily think Ryan Day's offense is a bad one at all. We've seen it work beautifully. The issue is his refusal to adjust when it doesn't work. We have elements of our offense that should have dog walked this tCun team, but Day/Chip didn't use it. We needs an OC that can smack Day in the head and say we need to adjust.
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Or someone should've smacked Kelly and said we need to adjust(I mean he's the play caller, I'm just going by the reasons Day said he hired him)
 
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iambrutus said:
its been said that Urb would reserve time on Monday to prepare for TTUN, and Day echoed that he did the same, but it certainly does not feel that way
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I'm guessing that time consists of Day looking in the mirror and muttering "you are tough you are tough" to himself for a hour.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
They are playing for an opportunity to play for another opportunity to play for ANOTHER opportunity to play for a natty.
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That's accurate to the playoff system if your record gets you into a playoff. Loses aren't as important to the championship goal. For fans like most of us here. This loss is unacceptable and depleting. In the grand scheme of college football now, it's a loss and positions the Buckeyes well in the playoff. Wouldn't be shocked if the conference champ games get dissolved
 
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Drubuck said:
That's accurate to the playoff system if your record gets you into a playoff. Loses aren't as important to the championship goal. For fans like most of us here. This loss is unacceptable and depleting. In the grand scheme of college football now, it's a loss and positions the Buckeyes well in the playoff. Wouldn't be shocked if the conference champ games get dissolved
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Too much $$$ involved for that to ever happen.
 
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Unfortunately, I think Day needs somebody to keep his mind right.

That person was supposed to be Chip, however, he was along for the ride for the Sat debacle.

Day definitely needs checked in on. I don't mean this as a bad thing. Many high functioning corporate people need counseling to talk them off the ledge.

It seems to be that Day has a hang up with showing the world how tough he and his team are. All it seems to take is a little prodding, and he falls for the bait.

This past Saturday did not need to happen and should not have happened, if somebody was in his ear forcing him to think through all the scenarios, which in his case he reasoned that the best way to win was the one through the greatest resistance. That was one of the most self destructive coaching efforts that I can recall in CFB.

If its true that OSU was building on Chips blue print the entire season, and all of sudden on Scum week, Day decided to invert himself into the picture and change things up, almost completely, there are no words. Day's insecurity is slowly killing the program. That cannot happen.

Day already agreed to step away from play calling. He obviously needs a constant reminder.

Ultimately Bjork needs to get involved. Become more supportive and also be a presence. Or find somebody to fill that. Possibly bring on Tress to be a mentor. Either Day will resist and flee, which is fine, or he will do better when he has somebody keeping his emotions in check.
 
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NFBuck said:
That and Ryan Day needs somebody to print off the quote in my signature, frame it, and put it within eye's view all over the WHAC.

I don't know how he prepares for The Game, but I remember reading/hearing that JT/Urb made preparing for The Game a regular part of their practices throughout the season. There's no way Day is doing that. He needs to. It feels like we've strayed far from that mentality.
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This was noted on BIG Noon that Michigan does this as well.
 
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NFBuck said:
I've seen 2015 Sparty compared to Saturday's atrocity a few times. It is not the same thing at all. That game was played in shit weather and that was a very good 12-2 Sparty team. This was a .500 tCun team with a HC that looked completely out of place all season, with a walk-on QB, and missing two of their best players (who will be 1st round picks in April). Was it poorly called? Sure, to some extent. But there were other factors at play there that were not present Saturday. This was far, far, far worse.
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Fair enough. I agree its the worst offensive game plan ever.
 
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sepia5 said:
I haven't posted around here much over the past few years--a combination of life getting in the way and my enthusiasm for modern college football waning for all the reasons I've seen @NFBuck raise in this and some other threads I've been reading through recently. I consider myself a fairly level-headed tOSU football fan. I've had many conversations with friends and family over the past several years after losses where I had to dispossess them of the notion that Day deserved his walking papers after a close loss to a good team, and I've generally viewed him as having the program in a largely enviable position, on the cusp of great things.

But now I have to say, I'm shocked that anyone is still defending him or suggesting he deserves more opportunities on the merits. The only reasons I suspect he will continue as tOSU's coach are the two things identified above by @pnuts34; and so my disdain for modern college football grows.

For years, Day has successfully brought in top talent in the form of players who ensure that virtually every Saturday there is an on-field talent disparity in tOSU's favor. And yet, he has very little by way of actual accomplishments to show for it. He's not won a Big Ten title since 2020, is 1-3 in the CFP, and has lost 4 in a row to TTUN. But really, it's this most recent loss that has caused me to lose all faith in him. The talent disparity was so great this weekend that this should not have been a close game in Ohio Stadium. The 12-men-on-the-field penalty coming out of a time out to gift TTUN a first down; the failure to fix special teams for years now; the lack of development and recruiting on the OL; a game plan that so obviously played to the one Michigan strength when there were things to exploit everywhere else: it all contributed to this maddening loss in what should have been treated as a must-win, career-altering game. It’s all inexcusable at this point. There is no explanation for what happened. It is unacceptable and deserving of a change.

The reason we won’t get a change is money and the carrot of a playoff run, which feels to me like a modern recipe for a repeat of the Cooper years.
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First off, happy to see you are back...I get that life changes things, but I always enjoy your posts. Second, I cannot agree or more accurately describe your sentiments. I want to support the guy and have for years, but what is the breaking point right? To me it was last Saturday.

Great guy and I wish him well, but tbh he just needs to go to the NFL as an OC. Promote Hartline, hire Vrabel or Freeman, but just make a change unless he actually wins the Natty. I never wanted it to come to this but...it has come to this.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
Unfortunately, I think Day needs somebody to keep his mind right.

That person was supposed to be Chip, however, he was along for the ride for the Sat debacle.

Day definitely needs checked in on. I don't mean this as a bad thing. Many high functioning corporate people need counseling to talk them off the ledge.

It seems to be that Day has a hang up with showing the world how tough he and his team are. All it seems to take is a little prodding, and he falls for the bait.

This past Saturday did not need to happen and should not have happened, if somebody was in his ear forcing him to think through all the scenarios, which in his case he reasoned that the best way to win was the one through the greatest resistance. That was one of the most self destructive coaching efforts that I can recall in CFB.

If its true that OSU was building on Chips blue print the entire season, and all of sudden on Scum week, Day decided to invert himself into the picture and change things up, almost completely, there are no words. Day's insecurity is slowly killing the program. That cannot happen.

Day already agreed to step away from play calling. He obviously needs a constant reminder.

Ultimately Bjork needs to get involved. Become more supportive and also be a presence. Or find somebody to fill that. Possibly bring on Tress to be a mentor. Either Day will resist and flee, which is fine, or he will do better when he has somebody keeping his emotions in check.
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I've been pretty resistant to Tressel ever having any formal role at the university, but I have to admit that he would be perfect in the role of Day Wrangler.
 
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TDG said:
Kind of interesting how every season this guy has to fire all of his assistants because they all let him down. I wonder what the common denominator is there?
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I think he hit a homerun with Knowles. The problem is that LJ Sr. is clearly past his expiration date. He was absolutely elite here for years, but it seems like since Bosa/Young left, we've been plagued my underachievement, and poor depth at the position. Our DL does not produce at the level needed. That seems more positional than philosophy.

Offense is another story. On paper/statistically, the offense is still fine, but there are serious issues lurking beneath the surface which came to an ugly boil Saturday. In hindsight, hiring Chip was a grave tactical failure as they're essentially the same person. Yeah, Day let go of the play calling (at least we think he did), and the move was pretty much universally praised, but if the guy he hired calls plays and game plans the exact same way, what changed? I don't mean to say we need a radical shift in overall offensive philosophy/framework, but we need a guy that thinks strategically different from the way Day does, as that clearly isn't working in key situations. I also have serious concerns about our QB development. The complete failure to have somebody ready to play in the Cotton Bowl last year was a total failure. I haven't seen anything out of any of our guys we have behind Will that leads me to believe they would be ready to step in if needed in what's left of this season or will be ready to go next year. Of course, Day barely lets his backups have any run, so that's hard to say...but also adds to the concern. If we see him dipping into the portal again this offseason (I don't think he will, but if he does...), then we have serious issues in developing these guys. Something has happened since Stroud that is not good in that area.
 
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Agree entirely, NFB. It almost feels like piling on now, but he has crapped the bed just about every time it mattered. The Cotton Bowl, which somehow we were gaslit into thinking that maybe it didn't matter, was a glaring example. In retrospect, I think he should've been fired after that embarrassment. Where are we now? Any better off? Nope. Would we be any better off had we made a change? Possibly, actually, no, definitely. Fuck me, I could've coached this team to a win last Saturday. If we'd hired somebody else and lost some players and maybe not landed some transfers, would we still have been able to beat that 6-5 tcunt team? Of course or we're not who we think we are. Would we still be at least an 8-seed in the CFP? Of course or we're not who we think we are. This fucker has managed to get us to follow his playbook, think scared and worry more about losing than working on winning.
 
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