osubartender23
Purple Nurple King
Yes but you asked why I was bringing up that number of games and I replied why.
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Pretty telling that we're 6 years into this guys tenure and the only accolade in the title is a COY award from his first year....5 years ago.
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Vrabel said recently that he would not rule out coaching in college football.
As for Bjork, you have a coach with one of the best win-loss records, he won 2 of 3 top 5 matchups this year, including the week before The Game, he has another top 5 recruiting class on the way. The season isn't over. You haven't heard any players saying they are done this year. You'll pay a lot to say goodbye. I get The Game, the wasted NIL boost, his frozen emotions during games but he's got that other stuff on the table.
Finally, I'm done with Day but, if I heard someone issuing physical threats to Day or his family, report that sick lowlife to the police. Inexcusable.
As for Bjork, you have a coach with one of the best win-loss records, he won 2 of 3 top 5 matchups this year, including the week before The Game, he has another top 5 recruiting class on the way. The season isn't over. You haven't heard any players saying they are done this year. You'll pay a lot to say goodbye. I get The Game, the wasted NIL boost, his frozen emotions during games but he's got that other stuff on the table.
Finally, I'm done with Day but, if I heard someone issuing physical threats to Day or his family, report that sick lowlife to the police. Inexcusable.
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GreenwoodBuck
Heisman
Academics are first and foremost for any university. As long as the team achieves high academic success, and they continue to stay out of the news(trouble), Ryan Day will remain coach even with the consecutive losses to TTUN, although the seat will get hotter and hotter if he doesn't right the ship. The hatred of fan bases has continued from the days of Woody and Bo, but I'm telling you, social media has escalated it the past few years. Too many asshat fans post stupid shit on ESPN, Fox Sports, Facebook, and all other social media channels and all it does is fuel the flames. The exact reason I logged off Facebook until at least February. Already last night my page was getting flooded from friends and coworkers who are fans of other teams which added insult to injury as they knew I would be pissed at the outcome. Yet, I'm the bigger individual who never brags or rubs it in on others because frankly it's too damn stupid! Before social media, if we lost, I could be pissed for a couple hours with those around me who were also Buckeye fans. By Sunday, all was good, and on Monday I could return to work with 95% Buckeye fans who felt as bad as I did about the loss. It's the constant reminders on social media for the entire ensuing year where a few dumbasses from all fanbases continue to rub it in our faces. Funny how most of these athletes choose a D1 school of their choice hoping to make it to the next level. Some eventually playing on the same pro team at the next level. Do you really think they care what some no name fans think about their performance? A few might, but those from different parts of the country who choose OSU or TTUN are simply doing so to make it to the next level.
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What the University wants is to keep the money machine going, ultimately. I hate to put it so bluntly, but Ohio State football is the veritable diamond mine. Why does the athletic department turn a profit? Football being a licensing and merchandise behemoth and ultimately one of the 3 biggest draws on TV, which equated to not 1, not 2, but 3 monstrous TV deals. Are there cracks in that armor? I don't really think so.
Moving the money aspect out of the way (which isn't reality but I had to transition somehow) - how do they define the goals in the contract? He represents the university professionally, he does not run afoul of the NCAA or Big Ten regulations that anyone knows of, and he seems to have boundless energy for all of the required media spots, public outings, etc. Not to mention, outside of 1 particular game, which no one seems to understand isn't an actual stipulation in his contract, he's winning something like 88% of his games.
Bjork is not an Ohio State alumnus. He's a businessman first. President Carter is a retired Navy Admiral. The Board of Trustees, for the most part, try to keep the football factory and the university under the same umbrella - meaning no one is likely go to rogue like that turd for Ped State (Lubrano) and start posting bullshit on fan sites. What that means to me is all 3 of those people/entities are going to view this far more dispassionately than us, the fans, will.
Another factor that people are mentioning and/or stumbling too is the landscape is changing/has changed and is still evolving. NIL is about to be entirely different with direct compensation. The wild wild west era is about to be over, I think, for the most part. In the past 3 years, you've had two dynastic coaches retire (Saban and Stoops), a crumbling empire in Clemson (and potentially Bama) and the most recent back to back champion (UGA) seemingly show cracks in their own invincibility.
Did Saturday suck? Yes.
Is the world over for Ohio State football if Ryan Day is the head football coach on August 1st, 2025? Absolutely not.
Is the risk/reward of firing Day potentially gargantuan? Yes.
Is that a reason to not pull the trigger? Potentially.
This is the first hire in my living memory that carries these risks. What was the risk in hiring Tressel? The program was already struggling and Cooper was clearly out of gas. There was no way to judge Fickell at the end of the Tressel era due to the massive amounts of players missing (not to mention there was a certain coach waiting out there at that time). The risk there was, in my IMO, not moving fast enough to get Meyer on board. I wasn't around yet for the Earle Bruce hire and wasn't paying attention quite that deeply when Bruce was fired and Cooper hired.
I can say that if they DO pull the trigger and fire him, and I said it Saturday, Bjork's entire era will be defined by it.
Someone who has access to all of the variables within the WHAC (Bjork and his staff) are likely putting together a risk matrix. I think, ultimately, that risk matrix makes this pretty cut and dried, even if I disagree with the outcome.
While I said I would have done it Saturday, and ultimately I DO think a new voice may be needed/necessary, when I factor all that together, I don't personally think Day gets fired at this time and I do believe, short of a 60 point loss in the CFP or some sort of NCAA violations or NFL job taking him away, that he will be the head coach on August 1st, 2025.
1926Buckeyes
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Honestly, which Tressel OLs were great? I keep hearing about his great OLs and run game and the OL was almost always a mess and the run game took the whole season to gel. And I'd argue his DL dropped off after Cooper's players left.
Disagree about the players, agree on the coach.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Just sayin': Yeah, you guys are correct. Just how many colleges would fire their football coach after finishing in the 10 top nationally (after the regular season), getting into the CFPs, and having a top 5 recruiting class committed for 2025?
Hell, Cooper had a 2-10-1 record against scum. He had to lose to them 10½ times before he was fired.....
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X Buckeyes07 X
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Hilarious that the headline here is "strong support." Anyone who's been around executive hirings/firings and has read a few of these sees it for what it is. The qualifiers in bold:And Ross Bjork gives Day full support.
Ohio State AD Ross Bjork issues strong support for football coach Ryan Day
Ohio State athletic director Ross Bjork told The Dispatch on Sunday that football coach Ryan Day has his full support despite the loss to Michigan.www.dispatch.com
“Our full focus right now is on the College Football Playoff and making a strong run,” Bjork said Sunday. “We have a ton to play for. We have a great team made up of talented players and great young men. Coach Day does a great job leading our program. He's our coach. “There's a ton of stability across the board within the program,” Bjork said. “We're always in the top five under his leadership. We're right there. We have great fan support, great donor support. There's going to be plenty of time to dissect what happened in the rivalry game the last couple years. But right now, we have to keep the main thing the main thing, and that's focus on the values of the program, focus on why we lead the young men, focus on the mission and the playoff. We’re disappointed (with Saturday’s loss), but he’s our coach,” Bjork said. “I’m focused on supporting our players and our coaches and continuing to get to know our fan base and our donor base and leading through this disappointing time.”
https://www.dispatch.com/picture-ga...oach-ryan-day-2024-season-photos/74621309007/
"Right now" = aka we're not blowing this up before the playoffs, as billmac has already covered.
"Strong run" = but I have another decision point coming shortly. Show me something, Ryan.
"leading our program" (followed by a bunch of stuff about strong academics) = easily becomes "but here at Ohio State, leaders must drive results on *and* off the field"
"He's our coach" = "is" our coach. Sure, that's an obvious fact, but well, refer back to the upcoming decision.
"Ton of stability" = this is not a one man show. We can weather replacing one person if we need to.
"Always right there. Great fan support, great donor support" = well shit, this is starting to sound like a pitch to the person who can take us from top 5 to top dog!
"plenty of time" = Let's chat in a couple weeks. I'll be doing my homework in the interim.
"continuing to get to know our fan base and our donor base" = Let me see exactly how livid people are and how that translates to fundraising for a buyout if we want to go that route.
"leading through this disappointing time" = this isn't how I wanted to ease into the holidays, Ryan. Let's see if I get to conviction that now is the time to pin my future here on getting your replacement right. Chat in a couple weeks.
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This win gives Sherrone more time if he survives the NCAA stuff. I still don’t think that’s a good thing, he’s shown to be in over his head and the same with their crappy OC he’s definitely getting at least another year now. There was no “out coaching” in this game. Day tripped over his own dick harder than you’ll ever see anyone do and Sherrone just happened to be the dope on the other side line. If they had lost badly and finished 6-6 I think there woulda been at least discussion of moving on.
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BUCKYLE
Lunatic Fringe
After reading the statement from Bjork, I'm thinking he wants us all to see exactly what tsun has been up to the last few years before we hold any of that against Day. Which is fair.
I'm wondering if he's underestimating fan support if we keep losing to tsun. Especially that way. That was inexcusable. I'm still so confused.
I'm wondering if he's underestimating fan support if we keep losing to tsun. Especially that way. That was inexcusable. I'm still so confused.
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Maybe this was posted earlier and I missed it. Either way, if you in ANY fucking way support some of the things said in here or think it's justified over a fucking football game, check yourself. I've been saying it all season. I've been saying it in previous seasons - this job isn't worth it for anyone who wants anything beyond the paycheck. The sad part is, the threats part is absolutely believable (e.g. EJ Liddell, idiots venmo'ing CJ Stroud to say stupid shit, etc)....
Ryan Day and Ohio State's unhealthy Michigan obsession lands them atop Misery Index
Ohio State and Ryan Day care way too much about "The Game" 365 days a year, to the point where it strangles them when it matters.
www.usatoday.com
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Even if you erase the previous 3 years this loss is never going to be forgiven. There’s just no way to justify this one. At home against a bum 5 loss team that was depleted by injuries. Maybe you give him 1 more chance but there’s really going to be no justifying it if he loses again to them next year.
They cheated the previous 3 years but they also broke Day in the process and it this point I don’t see him ever recovering from it that damage is already done
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because people are super optimistic about OSU after that performance?
who are these suckers?
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BUCKYLE
Lunatic Fringe
I'm not advocating any tsun loss ever be forgiven. They're unforgivable.
I'm just saying knowing what he knows, Bjork won't be firing him for a couple more years at current pace, if even then.
Pay Tress and Urban to be consultants and just have them working on tsun stuff all year. Then hire Coop as the same but do the opposite of anything he suggests. Bada Bing bada boom. Never lose again
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