HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

[Captain Buckeye]

I’m more curious as to what Urban saw in Day to recommend him. Why does/did he think he was the right guy? What qualities made him the guy and pushed the University from doing its due diligence in a national search?

We all know Urban doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to hiring assistants. This honestly smacks of another he’s my guy, so of course he’s gonna be good scenario.

I’m as disappointed in the University for their part in this hire as I am Urban.

It was an excellent hire and we thought that way until TCUN game in 2021. As Bill points out Ryan after the 2021 loss to TCUN tried to be something he wasn’t. So it started off wonderful and then Ryan changed with that 2021 loss.

You should look at your processes when you lose absolutely. However when you’re as good as he was in 2019, 2020, and 2021 was there really a reason for a radical shift in 2022-current? Absolutely not.

Look we are set up to throw the ball first to Bills point. So do that and who cares about balance until we soften them up enough to run the ball. With the defense we have who cares about the statistics just score! Look what TCUN did the last 4 years with essentially no balance. Yes I get the Connor stuff but they still ran the ball what 70% of the time?

Another thing with Day that shows just how not himself he can be. Anyone notice his purposeful deep voice he does when interviewed? Sometimes he’ll go a few words before he turns on his deep voice so you can see him change in real time. Just be yourself man and that’s a guy who loves to throw the ball first. That’s how we are set up personnel wise so just roll with what you have both as a program and as a person.

 

[Jaxbuck]

It was an excellent hire and we thought that way until TCUN game in 2021. As Bill points out Ryan after the 2021 loss to TCUN tried to be something he wasn’t. So it started off wonderful and then Ryan changed with that 2021 loss.

You should look at your processes when you lose absolutely. However when you’re as good as he was in 2019, 2020, and 2021 was there really a reason for a radical shift in 2022-current? Absolutely not.

Look we are set up to throw the ball first to Bills point. So do that and who cares about balance until we soften them up enough to run the ball. With the defense we have who cares about the statistics just score! Look what TCUN did the last 4 years with essentially no balance. Yes I get the Connor stuff but they still ran the ball what 70% of the time?

Another thing with Day that shows just how not himself he can be. Anyone notice his purposeful deep voice he does when interviewed? Sometimes he’ll go a few words before he turns on his deep voice so you can see him change in real time. Just be yourself man and that’s a guy who loves to throw the ball first. That’s how we are set up personnel wise so just roll with what you have both as a program and as a person.

Completely disagree.

It was a guy in Urban wanting out and telling you he had his replacement ready. It doesn't take more than one time doing that to a place, or having it done in a place you are part of to know that's a bad way to run a railroad.

Of course the guy who wants his promotion/pension/bonus is going to tell you the new guys is alright and everything will be fine. The people who didn't catch or stop that are the ones at fault for Day. It was a red flag from Day 1 (no pun intended).

 

[DaveyBoy]

It was an excellent hire and we thought that way until TCUN game in 2021. As Bill points out Ryan after the 2021 loss to TCUN tried to be something he wasn’t. So it started off wonderful and then Ryan changed with that 2021 loss.

You should look at your processes when you lose absolutely. However when you’re as good as he was in 2019, 2020, and 2021 was there really a reason for a radical shift in 2022-current? Absolutely not.

Look we are set up to throw the ball first to Bills point. So do that and who cares about balance until we soften them up enough to run the ball. With the defense we have who cares about the statistics just score! Look what TCUN did the last 4 years with essentially no balance. Yes I get the Connor stuff but they still ran the ball what 70% of the time?

Another thing with Day that shows just how not himself he can be. Anyone notice his purposeful deep voice he does when interviewed? Sometimes he’ll go a few words before he turns on his deep voice so you can see him change in real time. Just be yourself man and that’s a guy who loves to throw the ball first. That’s how we are set up personnel wise so just roll with what you have both as a program and as a person.

Yes. M Was hoping Day wouldn’t patiently pick apart its secondary with short stuff and rollout passes. It was obvious to everyone in the stadium expect Day and Kelly. Literally. Yet Day had to prove his and his team’s toughness by running into a wall. Frankly, he or Kelly or both should be fired by tomorrow for this. It was THAT bad.

 

[RuGettinIt]

It was an excellent hire and we thought that way until TCUN game in 2021. As Bill points out Ryan after the 2021 loss to TCUN tried to be something he wasn’t. So it started off wonderful and then Ryan changed with that 2021 loss.

You should look at your processes when you lose absolutely. However when you’re as good as he was in 2019, 2020, and 2021 was there really a reason for a radical shift in 2022-current? Absolutely not.

Look we are set up to throw the ball first to Bills point. So do that and who cares about balance until we soften them up enough to run the ball. With the defense we have who cares about the statistics just score! Look what TCUN did the last 4 years with essentially no balance. Yes I get the Connor stuff but they still ran the ball what 70% of the time?

Another thing with Day that shows just how not himself he can be. Anyone notice his purposeful deep voice he does when interviewed? Sometimes he’ll go a few words before he turns on his deep voice so you can see him change in real time. Just be yourself man and that’s a guy who loves to throw the ball first. That’s how we are set up personnel wise so just roll with what you have both as a program and as a person.

This is the time frame of moving through the Urban/Day players and into the full Day program.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

Completely disagree.

It was a guy in Urban wanting out and telling you he had his replacement ready. It doesn't take more than one time doing that to a place, or having it done in a place you are part of to know that's a bad way to run a railroad.

Of course the guy who wants his promotion/pension/bonus is going to tell you the new guys is alright and everything will be fine. The people who didn't catch or stop that are the ones at fault for Day. It was a red flag from Day 1 (no pun intended).

Coach Day produced the best offense in college football from 2017-2022. Made a bad hire in Kerry which set the defense back which lagged the defense behind for two seasons.

We were robbed vs Clemson in 2019 and got to the finals in 2020. Then the 2021 loss happened and he fell apart.

He was the right person for the job and then he changed. He tried to be something he’s not and that’s ok.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

The Game has been cheapened and lost it's meaning other than bragging rights. That really sucks. I fully expect the B1G to move it to earlier in the season in the near future.

Rivalry weekend is too valuable for the media partners to dilute. The Game will stay where it is.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

I think we screwed the pooch running UFM off, yeah there was the shit show with the Jaguars (happens to almost every college coaching moving to the NFL) but the guy knew how to beat ttun. It is a mile in the rearview mirror, but I worried this might be the result.

I think it was the perfect time to move on from Meyer. He was slowly losing his grip on the program and numerous position groups and coaches were failing.

The future will need to be Marcus Freeman or Matt Campbell.….with Hartline and JL in place to recruit. Heck - bring Eddie George in as RB coach. Go all in on guys who can recruit with a proven competent HC. Campbell is more proven than Freeman so he has the inside track. With this collection of offensive and defensive talent I’m confident Campbell would be at least as successful as Day and is from Ohio

I want Campbell nowhere near this program. What makes you think he'd be able to win 10 games every year? Or recruit.

I think Day is just who he is, he hasn't changed or been ruined by anything other than over promotion. He's a QB coach and passing game coordinator who got thrown in to deep end and couldn't swim.

It's definitely part of Day, but not sure any coach is making it through 3 years of cheating in this rivalry. It would've destroyed Meyer. Maybe Tressel is ok because he was more even keeled, but he also wasn't winning more NCs and only had the game to hang his hat on.

I get not wanting to just blame the cheating. It's not the whole issue, but not being able to win 2 in a row and then having at least 2-3 guaranteed losses will wreck any career.

This is the time frame of moving through the Urban/Day players and into the full Day program.

So Tressel was only good enough to win an NC because of Cooper? Day's early success had little to do with Meyer's players.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

This is the time frame of moving through the Urban/Day players and into the full Day program.

The classes have been very similar to Urbans with one exception. UFM needed those players in the trenches and Ryan Day stressed the skill players. You add in the change of aggressiveness and this is what you get.

Btw, Austin Ward confirmed on a podcast that parents of players were getting after it after the game. Not great situation at all.

 

[DaveyBoy]

I think it was the perfect time to move on from Meyer. He was slowly losing his grip on the program and numerous position groups and coaches were failing.



I want Campbell nowhere near this program. What makes you think he'd be able to win 10 games every year? Or recruit.



It's definitely part of Day, but not sure any coach is making it through 3 years of cheating in this rivalry. It would've destroyed Meyer. Maybe Tressel is ok because he was more even keeled, but he also wasn't winning more NCs and only had the game to hang his hat on.

I get not wanting to just blame the cheating. It's not the whole issue, but not being able to win 2 in a row and then having at least 2-3 guaranteed losses will wreck any career.



So Tressel was only good enough to win an NC because of Cooper? Day's early success had little to do with Meyer's players.

Campbell would be a significantly better game day coach than Day. He is from Ohio and would understand the need to win the rivalry game. As long as he would retain BH and JL and TW, he would keep the talent pipeline. Day is literally an incompetent HC during gameday.

 

[Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux]

parents of players were getting after it after the game

What does that refer to?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

An Earl Bruce type Ohio guy who gets the rivalry and wins it a majority of the time but loses 3 games a year is a disaster because that means he's missing the playoffs almost every year.

As for yesterday, that might be the worst gameplan I've ever seen. We have an offensive line held together by duct tape, and they have two 1st round DT's, so we run a plan based on runs up the middle? That wasn't coaching. That was Day's ego and need to prove something being put ahead of everything else. Should he go? If there was a clear path forward, I'd say yes. But given I don't see any clear successors and the possibility of losing our current talent and recruiting class and engaging in a full scale rebuild, I don't think so.

 

[gmen6981]

Yes, being caught in a lie on official university email will get anybody fired.

Tressel got fired because he was too stupid to realize university emails aren't private.

Tressel got fired because he lied to the NCAA about have prior knowledge of what the players did before the 2010 season and lied on the annual compliance paperwork. He knew that those players would not be eligible yet played them anyways. It was the emails with Chris Cicero that confirmed he lied. If he would have brought it to the attention of the AD in August 2010, it would have resulted in a several game suspension of the players at the beginning of the year and that would have been the end of it. As it was, the NCAA issued the suspensions in Dec. 2010 and closed the case. It wasn't until the following May when it was proven Tress lied to the school and the NCAA that shit hit the fan.

 

[Tanner]

Urban was a once in a generation hire. One of the best college coaches ever, still young, that's not going to happen that often. They need to be careful with Day

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Oh, come on. You know what I was implying.

Stated differently: When you look at the way things are now w/NIL, it is beyond ridiculous that the Tressel “scandal” was even a thing at all.

But I digress. It is a disgusting shame, but it no longer matters except to old dogs like me.

They were the rules at the time. I'm also pretty sure that any employee caught repeatedly lying to his superiors and the governing body of his industry would be just as fired as Tressel. JT got what was coming to him. It's not a disgusting shame; it was a case of Tressel putting the university in a horrible situation, and the university doing the right thing.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Urban was a once in a generation hire. One of the best college coaches ever, still young, that's not going to happen that often. They need to be careful with Day

There were a lot of red flags with Urban at the time: washed up after Florida, ran away from Saban, couldn't control the players off-field. Fortunately, those things didn't happen at Ohio State.