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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

Two offense first, defense optional, B12 type coaches who specialize in QB development. Riley is up 3 Heisman's to none.

He is going to be a major thorn in Days side on the QB recruiting circuit if Day is still at OSU in '24.
Didn’t know Heiman’s was a good measuring stick for a coach.

Riley has done nothing so far to show he is a better coach than Day.
 
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Two offense first, defense optional, B12 type coaches who specialize in QB development. Riley is up 3 Heisman's to none.

He is going to be a major thorn in Days side on the QB recruiting circuit if Day is still at OSU in '24.

It hasn't always been optional under Day. We just haven't been able to hold onto the good DCs, and had some real stinkers in between. One of which is now at USC.

We do recruit D, though i fear the misses at DC are starting to take a toll in the talent we're attracting - specifically, DBs.

Knowles has a lot of work to do, and jury is still out imo.
 
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Didn’t know Heiman’s was a good measuring stick for a coach.

Riley has done nothing so far to show he is a better coach than Day.

When you are talking to a QB recruit about how you will develop him? It may just come up and that's all Day has to compete on right now. QB development and his offense.

He's not as different from Riley as you would like to believe.
 
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When you are talking to a QB recruit about how you will develop him? It may just come up and that's all Day has to compete on right now. QB development and his offense.

He's not as different from Riley as you would like to believe.
I never said they were different. I said you need a better example of a conference coach to be fearful of (ie, a better coach) than Riley. The fact that, as you say, they are similar just makes my point.
 
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I’d be curious to see a deeper dive into the offensive set numbers, but I felt like Cade Stover progressively became a split TE throughout the season.

I feel like became part of our issue on offense. I think the pleasant surprise he has been, lent OSU to keep adding to his plate and they wanted to flex him to incorporate him into the WR screen game.

But that set is so predictable…..when Cade lines up in slot he’s either sprinting wide to get a block on WR screen, or he’s running a drag into the middle and sitting down in coverage.

I don’t know…..give me the Cade who plays from a true TE position, attacks the seam on pass plays off the LOS, or stays in and chips or helps double team a DE.

When I say OSU has become too finesse……my #1 example would be Cade Stover flexed out. I hate it with a passion.
 
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I’d be curious to see a deeper dive into the offensive set numbers, but I felt like Cade Stover progressively became a split TE throughout the season.

I feel like became part of our issue on offense. I think the pleasant surprise he has been, lent OSU to keep adding to his plate and they wanted to flex him to incorporate him into the WR screen game.

But that set is so predictable…..when Cade lines up in slot he’s either sprinting wide to get a block on WR screen, or he’s running a drag into the middle and sitting down in coverage.

I don’t know…..give me the Cade who plays from a true TE position, attacks the seam on pass plays off the LOS, or stays in and chips or helps double team a DE.

When I say OSU has become too finesse……my #1 example would be Cade Stover flexed out. I hate it with a passion.
the cade stover of the 1st half of the season was a completely different cade stover than the one we saw in the 2nd half of the season.

call it a tough B1G schedule, or a lingering injury, or that he was used in a different way, or whatever... but completely different player for whatever reason.
 
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the cade stover of the 1st half of the season was a completely different cade stover than the one we saw in the 2nd half of the season.

call it a tough B1G schedule, or a lingering injury, or that he was used in a different way, or whatever... but completely different player for whatever reason.
IMO Cade wasn't the same after the Wisconsin game. I think he was pretty beat up from what I could tell.
 
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