Harrison remark, Intentional?

[MililaniBuckeye]

Those of you who think that the n-word is stupid, negative, and wrong no matter who uses it, and that anybody who does use it is an idiot who demeans themselves... I imagine you feel similarly about Washington DC's NFL team calling themselves the R*******, right? After all, nobody should be able use it, no matter who says they take a positive connotation from it, right?

I mean, as long as long as we are crusading against double standards and all.

Yeah, like the name of a sports team, which was chosen to honor a coach, is the exact same thing as a disparaging term used for well over a hundred years by those who terrorized, tortured, and murdered.

 

[jlb1705]

...a disparaging term used for well over a hundred years by those who terrorized, tortured, and murdered.

Which word does that description refer to - the n-word or the r-word?

 

[matcar]

I call bull[Mark May]. I've been in the Pacific for 36 of the last 40 years, including the last 29, and I've never heard a single Asian refer to his/herself as a "slant-eye". Never. Nor have I ever heard a single Italian-Americans refer to his/herself as a "wap" or "dago"...ever.

You either don't talk with many people or aren't listening. WOP, Dago, I first heard that word from Italians in New York. They use it A LOT.

Edit: in fact, they used it so much I had no idea it was even considered offensive in any circle. It seemed a term of endearment when I was growing up.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Which word does that description refer to - the n-word or the r-word?

The n-word obviously.

Concerning Native Americans, we only stole their land, broke treaties, and funneled entire tribal nations onto reservations. (yes, that was sarcastic)

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

You either don't talk with many people or aren't listening. WOP, Dago, I first heard that word from Italians in New York. They use it A LOT.

I've never lived in New York...

 

[matcar]

I've never lived in New York...

Right, well Max's point stands. As does JLB's.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Right, well Max's point stands. As does JLB's.

Just how do they use the terms "wap" and "dago"? Are you really saying that Italian-Americans actually greet each other "What's up dago?", "Not much, wap?"

 

[MaxBuck]

I call bull[Mark May]. I've been in the Pacific for 36 of the last 40 years, including the last 29, and I've never heard a single Asian refer to his/herself as a "slant-eye". Never. Nor have I ever heard a single Italian-Americans refer to his/herself as a "wap" or "dago"...ever.

So the fact you've never observed something means it doesn't exist.

Got it.

 

[matcar]

Just how do they use the terms "wap" and "dago"? Are you really saying that Italian-Americans actually greet each other "What's up dago?", "Not much, wap?"

They refer to themselves that way amongst other things.. "Well I'm a WOP, so of course I..." It is routinely used as slang for Italian American. No offense ever seemed to be taken when I was growing up. Granted, it was mostly Italians saying that to other Italians, but I couldn't tell the difference.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Just how do they use the terms "wap" and "dago"? Are you really saying that Italian-Americans actually greet each other "What's up dago?", "Not much, wap?"

I've lived in Newark Ohio most of my life and I've heard Italians use both. Honestly.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

So the fact you've never observed something means it doesn't exist.

When I've been in an area full of Asians for pushing four fucking decades and never heard it once, then yeah I think the likelihood of it happening is pretty small.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I went to hs with two half Korean dude's and they called each other "chink" every day. Granted it's a small sample size, but it happens. Outside of Hawaii anyway.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

They refer to themselves that way amongst other things.. "Well I'm a WOP, so of course I..." It is routinely used as slang for Italian American. No offense ever seemed to be taken when I was growing up. Granted, it was mostly Italians saying that to other Italians, but I couldn't tell the difference.

I've lived in Newark Ohio most of my life and I've heard Italians use both. Honestly.

There are a shit-ton of Italian Americans in Youngstown, and I was raised that "wap" and "dago" were derogatory. In fact, when I told this joke in front of my parents in the late '60s (I think I was 11 or 12 at the time, and actually heard it from a black kid in school), I got grounded:

"You can tell if your tires are made in Italy, because dago through mud, dago through snow, and when dago flat dago go wap, wap, wap"...

 

[BayBuck]

"Dago" as a derogatory originally referred to Spaniards/Hispanics fwiw.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I went to hs with two half Korean dude's and they called each other "chink" every day. Granted it's a small sample size, but it happens. Outside of Hawaii anyway.

Which is stupid because "chink" isn't the disparaging term for a Korean. It's like calling a French guy a Kraut or an Irish guy a frog...