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Greatest Dead Rock Stars

Who was the biggest loss?

  • Bob Marley

    Votes: 10 12.0%
  • Kurt Cobain

    Votes: 6 7.2%
  • Jimi Hendrix

    Votes: 24 28.9%
  • John Lennon

    Votes: 12 14.5%
  • Tupac

    Votes: 3 3.6%
  • Elvis

    Votes: 7 8.4%
  • Jerry Garcia

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Janis Joplin

    Votes: 3 3.6%
  • Ronnie Van Zant

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Freddie Mercury

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Marvin Gaye

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jim Morrison

    Votes: 7 8.4%
  • Stevie Ray Vaughn

    Votes: 7 8.4%
  • Notorious B.I.G.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    83
Buckeyeskickbuttocks;727730; said:
Hair Metal then would be Rock/Hard Rock (in your terms) owing to their use of I IV V progressions? I guess I can see that. Although, when it comes to hair metal solos, ie CC Deville, it's the same sorta thing you see in what you're calling metal, if you ask me.

A lot of the hair bands crossover or straddle the line I draw, yes. Then other bands like Black Sabbath are hard to pin down as well. There is a lot of "blues" influence, but there is also a lot of "classical" influence in there as well.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;727730; said:
Hair Metal then would be Rock/Hard Rock (in your terms) owing to their use of I IV V progressions? I guess I can see that. Although, when it comes to hair metal solos, ie CC Deville, it's the same sorta thing you see in what you're calling metal, if you ask me.
I tend to classify Hair Metal as Rock, whether it's Pop or Hard Rock. I used to giggle watching MTV's Headbangers Ball ... waiting hours upon hours through crap like Poison, Warrant, White Lion, Great White, etc (real headbangers, all of 'em) just to catch the full 9 minute video version of One or some obscure Priest or Maiden video.
 
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Saw31;727736; said:
A lot of the hair bands crossover or straddle the line I draw, yes. Then other bands like Black Sabbath are hard to pin down as well. There is a lot of "blues" influence, but there is also a lot of classical influence in there as well.

I'd put Sabbath in the "hard rock" line, but I'd also say they are probably .. well.. I think of it like this... if we were to make some sort of musical tree, Sabbath would I think be on the "Blues Rock" "trunk, if you will, but would itself be a branch leading to the style you classify as Metal. Indeed, it seems to me most metal guys credit Sabbath as an (if not their primary) influence, but you listen to Paranoid, and aside from the "big sound" (distortion and dropped D) it's pretty much in line with the other "heavier" stuff coming out of the late 60s early 70s (Deep Purple, Blue Cheer being a couple of examples, although more solidly in the "blues" side of the discussion, I'd say)
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;727743; said:
I'd put Sabbath in the "hard rock" line, but I'd also say they are probably .. well.. I think of it like this... if we were to make some sort of musical tree, Sabbath would I think be on the "Blues Rock" "trunk, if you will, but would itself be a branch leading to the style you classify as Metal. Indeed, it seems to me most metal guys credit Sabbath as an (if not their primary) influence, but you listen to Paranoid, and aside from the "big sound" (distortion and dropped D) it's pretty much in line with the other "heavier" stuff coming out of the late 60s early 70s (Deep Purple, Blue Cheer being a couple of examples, although more solidly in the "blues" side of the discussion, I'd say)


Well said. That is how I would look at it as well. A lot of this stuff has to take into consideration the time line and the constant changing and building upon what has come before...
 
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Saw31;727727; said:
Well, I find that this pic is always helpful in reviving a dieing thread...:p

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Or this...

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MuckFich06;727604; said:
Just an FYI, Guitar World's top Metal Guitarists:

#7 Dimebag Darrell

LINK

I never got into Pantera, I was just curious where he would fall on this list.

Here's a good way to realize this list is TOTAL garbage.

26. Head & Munky (Korn)
27. John Petrucci (Dream Theater)

31. Scott Ian (Anthrax)
33. Chris Degarmo & Michael Wilton (Queensryche)
73. Donald Buck Dharma Roeser (Blue Oyster Cult)
75. Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
77. Joe Satriani

Anyone have any idea what's so metal about Blue Oyster Cult? I don't even want to talk about some of the placing on this list.
"It is, rather, a tribute to the great men who shit iron and piss stainless steel razor blades, and do it every time they plug into an amplifier." REALLY? There are 44 guitarists more metal than Satch and less so than Scott Ian?

...I voted for Stevie Ray Vaughn. I did this because of many reasons.

1) He was a rocker. This helped me eliminate a few names... (Marley, Tupac, B.I.G, Marvin Gaye)

2) He was very young. Lots of people on this list are, and that's the idea... but guys that were in their mid 40s got to work through all of their best days. That helped me scratch a few more. (Freddie Mercury, Jerry Garcia, Lennon, Elvis,

3) It was a sudden and unexpected death. Morrison, Cobain, Hendrix, Joplin were all headed down the path of destruction, and in many of their cases the brief time they were around helped create an aura of mystery around their potential future, adding to their legacy. Not to mention, for some of them their paths to enlightenment or drugs of choice are widely considered a main inspiration for what they did. Essentially, for these stars their lack of longevity is part of the reason they're so great.

So, I was not left with many appetizing choices. Lynard Skynard... awful. Stevie had a drug problem too, but he was supposedly over it, and who knows what would have happened otherwise but I do think he had a lot of good to offer us, musically and it's a shame we never got it.
 
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31. Scott Ian (Anthrax)
33. Chris Degarmo & Michael Wilton (Queensryche)
73. Donald Buck Dharma Roeser (Blue Oyster Cult)

Did you include these because they are ranked so low?

Dime was an amazing guitarist, as is Scott Ian. Queensryche is amazing, as is BOC. Metal? I honestly think the definition of "metal" changes from decade to decade. BOC was metal back then. Queensryche was as well. Anthrax, well, they are metal then, and now.
 
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BrutusMaximus;1222798; said:
Should have at least put an option for "Other"

Cause it's Layne Staley in my book.

I definitely enjoy some Alice in Chains songs but I question whether people will still remember Staley, as they do Hendrix and Morrison, 40 years after his death.

I'll probably be too old to care by then, if I'm even still around, so I figured I should raise the question now. :wink:
 
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I'll probably be too old to care by then, if I'm even still around, so I figured I should raise the question now. :wink:

That is true enough, but a poll is based on opinions of a group of people, and you should at least include as many possible choices as you can :wink:

After looking at the guitarist list again, it actually says that it isnt ranking them by who can play the best, which would explain some of the questionable listings.
 
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