Glenville Pipeline

[Buckeye86]

Ok, so you gave one example of a kid from glenville, yet there are many more that have worked out in our favor and helped our football team tremendously.

There are plenty of hits and misses from Glenville. Ray Small is perhaps the best example of someone with a bad attitude off the field but there are others.

The success stories came in, worked hard, and earned their place in Buckeye history just like every other great player. None of them accomplished anything based on the fact that they were from Glenville.

I'm sorry, but pipeline school's for every college are treated a little different. A school that usually produces top flight athletes that like coming to osu works in our favor. That's why pipelines are very important to keep.

No kidding. Maintaining a close relationship with a high school and its coaches is one thing. Giving kids from that school special treatment is a completely separate issue. I think you are confusing the two.

I don't know what garbage you think I'm speaking of, but you're foolish if you don't think tressell and now urban Meyer won't treat Glenville slightly a little more special than a school anywhere else

How did Tressel giving kids preferential treatment work out for him and the school?


I hope for the sake of the program that Urban Meyer treats every kid the same regardless of where they come from.

Based on everything I have seen and read over the past year or so I think we'll be in good shape in that regard.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Ray, Rob Rose.

It would have been hard to know these two, at least, would have not worked out during their recruitment... Ray was a 4-star, Rose a 5-star (Scout, at least), and I'm guessing Ted, Sr. vouched for their character. What they did when they got to tOSU is probably not a fair reason to question the pipeline, per se.

 

[pnuts34]

There are plenty of hits and misses from Glenville. Ray Small is perhaps the best example of someone with a bad attitude off the field but there are others.

The success stories came in, worked hard, and earned their place in Buckeye history just like every other great player. None of them accomplished anything based on the fact that they were from Glenville.



No kidding. Maintaining a close relationship with a high school and its coaches is one thing. Giving kids from that school special treatment is a completely separate issue. I think you are confusing the two.



How did Tressel giving kids preferential treatment work out for him and the school?


I hope for the sake of the program that Urban Meyer treats every kid the same regardless of where they come from.

Based on everything I have seen and read over the past year or so I think we'll be in good shape in that regard.

I never suggested any type of special treatment to Jones. Just said, I'm sure the staff would hold a spot for him if need be. Shouldn't have mentioned the pipeline. With OT being a position of need, I'm sure the staff would be willing to let Marcellus make his decision when it's best for him. Especially since he's one of our top o line targets

 

[TheStoicPaisano]

The best example against a Glenville pipeline is Ray F. Small and his dad? One guy out of 18? If I remember correctly, Rose caught one suspension in his career -- for grades, which is why the vast majority of Glenville grads struggle in college. If you don't think race and socioeconomics have to do with the relative preparation these kids get in HS, I'm not sure we're going to see eye-to-eye.

Jon Newsome or Jermil Martin or Supe Hiley flunking out is worse than Boone/Worthington/Branden Joe getting DUIs, or TJ Downing being caught with smack? The Tat 5? Cardale Jones running his mouth on Twitter is a cause for concern, but we glorify Hyde or Hankins after making controversial statements?

The Florida WR example (Dukes, Carter, Southward) was simply to show we've been burned other places by recruiting, but the staff doesn't see that as a deterrent. This is because they treat every recruit individually, and give no 'special treatment'. In short, Chris Worley, Marcelys Jones and Marshon Lattimore don't have anything to do with Ray Small or Bryant Browning or Troy Smith other than where they grew up.

Tarblooders don't ask for 'special treatment'.
Tarblooders don't push an announcement past signing day.
Tarblooders don't play the hat switcheroo at the U.S. Army All-American Bowl or the Under Armour copycat game.
Tarblooders don't have a press conference to glorify one player.
Tarblooders do have a ceremony on NLOID to celebrate every athlete who signs an LOI, not just the ones that go to play football in Columbus or Ann Arbor.

 

[OhioState001]

At the end of the day I have no problems taking anyone from Glenville that Urban wants. End of story

Edit: Besides Latwan Anderson

 

[Buckeye86]

The best example against a Glenville pipeline is Ray F. Small and his dad? One guy out of 18?

Are you familiar with the difference between singular and plural words?

If I remember correctly, Rose caught one suspension in his career -- for grades, which is why the vast majority of Glenville grads struggle in college. If you don't think race and socioeconomics have to do with the relative preparation these kids get in HS, I'm not sure we're going to see eye-to-eye.

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand which is giving special/preferential treatment to players. So yeah, if you want to continue arguing with yourself about how well players are prepared academically for college we probably aren't going to be on the same page because that's not what I'm talking about.

Jon Newsome or Jermil Martin or Supe Hiley flunking out is worse than Boone/Worthington/Branden Joe getting DUIs, or TJ Downing being caught with smack? The Tat 5? Cardale Jones running his mouth on Twitter is a cause for concern, but we glorify Hyde or Hankins after making controversial statements?

Irrelevant and off topic yet again, but those are some examples to add to Ray Small as players that struggled off the field.

The Florida WR example (Dukes, Carter, Southward) was simply to show we've been burned other places by recruiting, but the staff doesn't see that as a deterrent.

I never said we should give up on recruiting Glenville. I said Ohio State shouldn't give Glenville players special treatment and Glenville grads shouldn't expect special treatment in Columbus.

This is because they treat every recruit individually, and give no 'special treatment'. In short, Chris Worley, Marcelys Jones and Marshon Lattimore don't have anything to do with Ray Small or Bryant Browning or Troy Smith other than where they grew up.

I feel like you think you're arguing with me here but you're not.