Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

[BB73]

Just to put it in the thread to make it easier to duscuss:

A big "OR' in the QB spot - and Laurinaitis instead of the injured Freeman are what I noticed right away.

edit - also looks like Kerr moved ahead of Terry at the Will.

Depth Chart - Texas Week

<TABLE borderColor=#990000 cellPadding=2 width=600 border=1><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=295 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=content colSpan=3>OFFENSE</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>SE</TD><TD id=content>4</TD><TD id=content>Santonio Holmes**</TD><TD id=content>5-11, 190, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>8</TD><TD id=content>Roy Hall**</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 240, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>LT</TD><TD id=content>50</TD><TD id=content>Doug Datish*</TD><TD id=content>6-5, 295, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>71</TD><TD id=content>Steve Rehring*</TD><TD id=content>6-8, 329, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>LG</TD><TD id=content>77</TD><TD id=content>Rob Sims***</TD><TD id=content>6-4, 310, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>59</TD><TD id=content>John Conroy*</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 295, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>C</TD><TD id=content>55</TD><TD id=content>Nick Mangold***</TD><TD id=content>6-4, 290, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>50</TD><TD id=content>Doug Datish*</TD><TD id=content>6-5, 295, Jr.</TD></TR><!--<tr><td id="content"> </td><td id="content">64</td><td id="content">Jim Cordle</td><td id="content">6-5, 275, Fr.</td></tr>--><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>RG</TD><TD id=content>72</TD><TD id=content>T.J. Downing*</TD><TD id=content>6-5, 305, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>67</TD><TD id=content>Kyle Mitchum</TD><TD id=content>6-6, 295, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>RT</TD><TD id=content>74</TD><TD id=content>Kirk Barton*</TD><TD id=content>6-6, 305, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>73</TD><TD id=content>Steve Winner</TD><TD id=content>6-6, 300, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>TE</TD><TD id=content>80</TD><TD id=content>Ryan Hamby***</TD><TD id=content>6-5, 255, 5th-Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>87</TD><TD id=content>Brandon Smith</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 240, Fr.</TD></TR><!--<tr><td id="content"> </td><td id="content">88</td><td id="content">Rory Nicol*</td><td id="content">6-5, 260, So.</td></tr>--><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>FL</TD><TD id=content>7</TD><TD id=content>Ted Ginn Jr.*</TD><TD id=content>6-0, 175, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>5</TD><TD id=content>Albert Dukes</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 190, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>QB</TD><TD id=content>12</TD><TD id=content>Justin Zwick*</TD><TD id=content>6-4, 225, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>OR</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>QB</TD><TD id=content>10</TD><TD id=content>Troy Smith**</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 215, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>17</TD><TD id=content>Todd Boeckman</TD><TD id=content>6-5, 235, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>TB</TD><TD id=content>25</TD><TD id=content>Antonio Pittman*</TD><TD id=content>5-11, 195, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>43</TD><TD id=content>Brandon Schnittker***</TD><TD id=content>6-2, 250, Sr.</TD></TR><!--<tr><td id="content"> </td><td id="content">2</td><td id="content">Erik Haw</td><td id="content">6-1, 212, R-Fr.</td></tr>--><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><!--<tr><td id="content">FB</td><td id="content">43</td><td id="content">Brandon Schnittker***</td><td id="content">6-2, 250, Sr.</td></tr>--><TR><TD id=content>FB</TD><TD id=content>89</TD><TD id=content>Stan White Jr.</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 242, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>49</TD><TD id=content>Dionte Johnson</TD><TD id=content>6-0, 250, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>SL</TD><TD id=content>11</TD><TD id=content>Anthony Gonzalez*</TD><TD id=content>6-0, 195, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>18</TD><TD id=content>Devon Lyons*</TD><TD id=content>6-4, 214, So.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=295 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=content colSpan=3>DEFENSE</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>DE</TD><TD id=content>97</TD><TD id=content>David Patterson**</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 285, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>99</TD><TD id=content>Jay Richardson*</TD><TD id=content>6-6, 276, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>LT</TD><TD id=content>94</TD><TD id=content>Marcus Green***</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 305, 5th-Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>93</TD><TD id=content>Nader Abdallah</TD><TD id=content>6-5, 300, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>RT</TD><TD id=content>90</TD><TD id=content>Quinn Pitcock**</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 295, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>98</TD><TD id=content>Joel Penton**</TD><TD id=content>6-5, 290, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>DE</TD><TD id=content>57</TD><TD id=content>Mike Kudla***</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 265, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>78</TD><TD id=content>Alex Barrow</TD><TD id=content>6-4, 255, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>SLB</TD><TD id=content>42</TD><TD id=content>Bobby Carpenter***</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 255, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>33</TD><TD id=content>James Laurinaitis</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 231, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>MLB</TD><TD id=content>51</TD><TD id=content>Anthony Schlegel*</TD><TD id=content>6-2, 251, 5th-Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>or</TD><TD id=content>46</TD><TD id=content>Chad Hoobler*</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 246, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>WLB</TD><TD id=content>47</TD><TD id=content>A.J. Hawk***</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 240, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>52</TD><TD id=content>John Kerr</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 246, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>LCB</TD><TD id=content>26</TD><TD id=content>Ashton Youboty**</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 188, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>19</TD><TD id=content>Brandon Underwood</TD><TD id=content>6-2, 170, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>RCB</TD><TD id=content>6</TD><TD id=content>Tyler Everett***</TD><TD id=content>5-11, 202, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>2</TD><TD id=content>Malcom Jenkins</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 180, Fr</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>FS</TD><TD id=content>21</TD><TD id=content>Nate Salley***</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 220, Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>32</TD><TD id=content>Brandon Mitchell**</TD><TD id=content>6-3, 205, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>SS</TD><TD id=content>9</TD><TD id=content>Donte Whitner**</TD><TD id=content>5-11, 205, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>3</TD><TD id=content>Jamario O'Neal</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 180, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>NB</TD><TD id=content>3</TD><TD id=content>Jamario O'Neal</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 180, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>34</TD><TD id=content>Rob Harley**</TD><TD id=content>6-2, 202, 5th-Sr.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#990000 cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width=295 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=295 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD id=content colSpan=3>SPECIALISTS</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>K</TD><TD id=content>23</TD><TD id=content>Josh Huston*</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 195, 5th-Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>85</TD><TD id=content>Ryan Pretorius</TD><TD id=content>5-10, 190, Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>P</TD><TD id=content>15</TD><TD id=content>A. J. Trapasso</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 220, R-Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>LS</TD><TD id=content>58</TD><TD id=content>Drew Norman</TD><TD id=content>6-0, 230, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>H</TD><TD id=content>15</TD><TD id=content>A.J. Trapasso</TD><TD id=content>6-1, 220, R-Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>KR</TD><TD id=content>4</TD><TD id=content>Santonio Holmes**</TD><TD id=content>5-11, 190, Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD id=content></TD><TD id=content>7</TD><TD id=content>Ted Ginn Jr.*</TD><TD id=content>6-0, 175, So.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD id=content>PR</TD><TD id=content>7</TD><TD id=content>Ted Ginn Jr.*</TD><TD id=content>6-0, 175, So.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Zwick OR Smith.....nobody couldve guess that one

 

[ScarletBlood31]

It may sound stupid, but what do those asteriks mean?

 

[gregorylee]

Yeah, I've heard that already. Look, I'm not trying to disparage your linebackers. It's the top unit in the country heading into the season. But if you think they are fast enough on the field to catch Vince Young, you'll be another in a long line of opposing fanbases to be shocked at what you see Saturday. He will make your linebackers look stupid. I've already picked OSU to win, but many on this board think it will be a cakewalk. In fact, as much as you compare Texas fans to Miami's before the 2002 championship game, a closer look will confirm that it is in fact the OSU fans who are taking Miami's "we're better athletes and can't possibly lose to an inferior Texas team" stance. Much like OSU in 2002, we're going to go into this one with a power rushing attack and a defense that is much better than you think it is, and we plan on leaving with a big win.

D00d, you might want to get off your knees and let Vince go practice, he is going to need to work.

 

[40 Acres]

Unlike the OSU vs Miami 2002 parallel you are trying to draw you are also coming in here with a coach well known for not getting it done in big games or against good teams.

Actually, I think it's more fair to say that Mack Brown is well known for not getting it done against Oklahoma. Since 2000, his record in games not involving the Sooners is 53-6 (almost 90 percent). His record in road games (that is, the other guy's stadium, not a neutral site) is 21-2 overall and 3-0 in road games at ranked teams.

 

[Golferdow01]

It may sound stupid, but what do those asteriks mean?

Letters received...years played with the team

 

[Jaxbuck]

It may sound stupid, but what do those asteriks mean?

Number of Letters earned IIRC

 

[jlb1705]

Letters won.

 

[40 Acres]

D00d, you might want to get off your knees and let Vince go practice, he is going to need to work.

If this board is a fair representation, then OSU fans are overconfident for this game. I can only hope that your team shares the sentiment.

 

[PlaywithPride21]

All the better, make Texas have to prepare for both. If Zwick doesn't play the majority of the game I will be surprised. Tressel may go with a dual quarterback system that was rumored to be in the works, for all I know. Wouldn't it surprise everyone if they were both on the field at the same time in various situations. Definitely don't expect to see him play much of Smith, unless Zwick struggles.

 

[Buckeye513]

Pocket QB in a spread offense against a zone OR Mobile QB in a spread offense against a zone. I'll take option #2.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Actually, I think it's more fair to say that Mack Brown is well known for not getting it done against Oklahoma. Since 2000, his record in games not involving the Sooners is 53-6 (almost 90 percent). His record in road games (that is, the other guy's stadium, not a neutral site) is 21-2 overall and 3-0 in road games at ranked teams.

he's not going on the road to beat up on a B12 patsy.

-Here are the 4 times since 1998 that UT has gone on the road for an OOC game vs a BCS school and the results(opp final record):

1998: L 31-49 @ UCLA (10-2)
2000: L 24-27 @ Stanford (5-6)
2002: W 52-21 @ UNC (3-9)
2004: W 22-20 @ Arkansas (5-6)
<O:p</O:p
<O:pForgive me if I'm not impressed.</O:p
<O:p</O:p
<O:pAlso if you look at that 2-13 record vs AP top 10 teams i showed you earleir you can back out 5 for his inability to beat OU. Thats still a 2-8 record vs teams that finished the season ranked in the top 10.</O:p
<O:p</O:p
<O:pAgain, forgive me if I'm not impressed.</O:p

 

[Golferdow01]

Pocket QB in a spread offense against a zone OR Mobile QB in a spread offense against a zone. I'll take option #2.

I agree. It really appeared that JT had the offense tailored to Smith's gameplan and I wouldn't be surprised to see him take the majority of snaps from here on out.

 

[40 Acres]

he's not going on the road to beat up on a B12 patsy.

-Here are the 4 times since 1998 that UT has gone on the road for an OOC game vs a BCS school and the results(opp final record):

1998: L 31-49 @ UCLA (10-2)
2000: L 24-27 @ Stanford (5-6)
2002: W 52-21 @ UNC (3-9)
2004: W 22-20 @ Arkansas (5-6)
<o ="">:p</o>:p
<o ="">:pForgive me if I'm not impressed.</o>:p
<o ="">:p</o>:p
<o ="">:pAlso if you look at that 2-13 record vs AP top 10 teams i showed you earleir you can back out 5 for his inability to beat OU. Thats still a 2-8 record vs teams that finished the season ranked in the top 10.</o>:p
<o ="">:p</o>:p
<o ="">:pAgain, forgive me if I'm not impressed.</o>:p

Well, like I said earlier, Tressel better win this game. I'm sure your fanbase won't tolerate losing to such a hopelessly overmatched opponent.

 

[PlaywithPride21]

The running ability of Smith is a big advantage, and my guess is that he will see time in certain situations. Knowing Tressel, not literally of course, it's Zwick's job until he struggles.