It depends...usually yes, DE's are associated with contain in the 4-3, but a variety of stunts can change responsiblities.Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Contain is responsibility that in a base defense against a drop back passer is the DE's responsibility but like anything on defense all this changes depending on stunts, blitzes, coverages and the offensive play call. For instance on a counter play the DE might be asked to take on the pulling linemen and then the responsiblity of contain would shift to either a saftey or LB with the other "filling" which basically means, making the tackle. on a bootleg or sprint out many teams will have the LB contain. This all depends on your personell, scheme, and opponent.
Kinda nitpicking here but disciplined pass rushing lanes is a part of containing. If keeping a qb in the pocket is your goal then your DT's cannot be freelanceing and going around or cutting under blocks otherwise as you said he will escape vertically.
Those are the passes that Vince could complete last year. He couldn't throw the ball deep or over the middle on slants. I think you should let him have the deep ball until he shows you that he can actually throw it with accuracy.jwinslow said:
Well you are definitely intitled to you opinion but, Vince disagrees with you, Mack disagrees with you, most scouts disagree with you, and though its not even worth the band width it takes up, it is my opinion that your wrong as well. Vince has had a problem with short routes since highschool with his tendency to guide throws instead of just passing, this was the first thing that he said he needed to work on after the rose bowl. Well, he actually said he needs to work on short passing game and cutting out early turnovers.texasfight06 said:
I'll also nitpick and disagree with your assessment...although the lanes are a component of stopping Young...the term "contain" refers to not letting someone outside to reach the edge and get downhill.High Lonesome said:
what deep pass routes did you think he was accurate on last year?High Lonesome said:
ok, I will admit to not reading the original post that started all of this, so if we are refering to outside contain then i submit that you are correct.osugrad21 said:
Like a ten yard out? I dont remember it exactly right now. But he had a lot of success on short dumps to Thomas and Scafie and horribly over and under threw on several deep attempts. I think that part of the reason that his completion % is so high, is because of the several short routes that he has completed. You can do this though when people keep their LBs keyed on the QB and release the TE for a quick out.High Lonesome said:
Here's another "spy story":Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
I think all Texas fans are hoping he protects the ball alot better this year. Many times last year I remember grimacing after Young carelessly lost the ball trying to make something happen out of nothing. I believe the kid has really matured in the passing game, and he showed alot of that maturity in the Rose Bowl. I also agree that Young throws a better deep ball than short passing game. Several times last year he struggled throwing the touch pass and many times the deep balls were pretty accurate. I am by no means implying that he throws a very accurate deep ball, but he has more success with the longer routes. Hopefully he will improve hitting his receiver in stride on both long and short routes.jwinslow said:
