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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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MililaniBuckeye;605561; said:
I rewatched the whole game last night, and the helmet-to-helmet personal foul call was legit. Why? Go back and listen to the hit during the live play. You can clearly hear the hallow thud of helmet hitting helmet...it was loud. If the mics picked it up, you know the official just as well and had no choice but the make the call. Still, you don't ratchet down Richardson for what he did...as Herbstreit got Davie to say, you don't change a thing about how he plays.
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I can understand the mistake at game speed, combined with the bone-crushing hit and sound it made. Excusing it and agreeing with it are two separate things for me. It's awfully hard for a 6'6" guy not to make contact with his helmet, especially when rushing from straight ahead, while trying to block a pass.
 
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I think it was a horrible call. Helmets hit each other every play! Everytime linemen initiate contact there helmets hit. JRich didn't lower his head and use it as a weapon (putting his head down and using the crown of the helmet). He hit him just as McCoy released the ball and it was a very simple tackle. The ref just had to make his mark on the game.

The call doesn't matter and to me turned out to work out well for the Bucks as it motivated the offense to finish off the last drive. But I don't see any justification for the flag.
 
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The call doesnt matter really except we cant say we held them to just a field goal...I would tell JRich to do the exact same thing next time, and the time after that, and every time he gets the chance. He didnt do anything intentionally and I cant get to riled up over the refs missing this one at full speed in a game we won by 3 scores. If it had affected the outcome directly maybe, but I think its time to let that call go.
 
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why do we care?

Honestly,
Why are people still even talking about the hit and the call that followed. Either way, we won the game handily and Texas can look back knowing that their single touchdown was perhaps given to them by a questionable call. It would be one thing if the call was game changing, but it wasn't so, lets all move on...
Hell of a hit though, I'm glad my boy from Dublin put a hurtin on that baby faced little "colt" (real name Daniel)...Looks like Opie wasnt ready for a real defense...sorry texas...horns Down!!
 
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Hey XRay, I (for one) appreciate your post. BN73 included it, and I firmly believe it is your most cogent, insightful post of this thread. That said, your previous posts had much entertainment value in them, which I didn't appreciate until THAT thread, in which you disclose that much of what you did was for entertainment value...........you were playing a game within a game that I did not appreciate until I was shown 'the game'. I learned something today.

OSU got clobbered by Florida State several years ago, and we learned that we needed to have 'fresh bodies' in the D and O lines......we incorporated that philosophy into the philosophy at OSU......I'll betcha that Mack and and boys start emphasizing special teams more (I did notice better coverage and returns by UT this game) because of our punter etc. UT will be hard to handle when we play y'all in the future......my prediction is that we'll tee it up again in Glendale for the BCS.....

:gobucks3: :gobucks4: :banger:
 
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OHSportsFan9;605641; said:
I think it was a horrible call. Helmets hit each other every play! Everytime linemen initiate contact there helmets hit.
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That was the only time all game I heard a clear helmet-to-helmet sound. Also, the helmet-to-helmet rule doesn't apply to line blocking. Trust me, no one was yelling louder or using more profanities than me when they threw the flag, but upon watching--and hearing--the play again, I totally understand why they called it.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;605838; said:
That was the only time all game I heard a clear helmet-to-helmet sound. Also, the helmet-to-helmet rule doesn't apply to line blocking. Trust me, no one was yelling louder or using more profanities than me when they threw the flag, but upon watching--and hearing--the play again, I totally understand why they called it.
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I was going to post this earlier - the NCAA refined and emphasized safety in all incidents that look like they might be helmet-to-helmet. They issued informational pieces in August 2005 and new NFL style signs to play "heads-up" football were issued to all NCAA football programs for use in the locker room.
This season, a new NCAA poster will hang in every locker room across the country, reminding players of the dangers of spearing. "The idea is to provide a daily visual reminder on safe technique and injury prevention. We are committed to a formal education program on the rule change and are confident that this kind of outreach can ultimately help reduce risk of catastrophic injury," suggests David Klossner, assistant director of the NCAA's Education Outreach initiative.
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They also made this a specific point of emphasis for the 2006 season in their description of the rules, which are available as pdf files from ncaa.org.
While I might not agree with the strict interpretation of the rule in the context of the play on McCoy, there is no way that I can say this was outside the rules, or a blown call. Especially now that I have taken the time to read this years emphatic interpretation of the same by the NCAA.

Key points, intent is not an issue here. If helmet hits helmet it can be called.
Another safety concern ? helmet-to-helmet contact and spearing ? was discussed at length by the committee. The group reviewed a report from the American Football Coaches Association task force in this area and made some suggested wording changes, mainly deleting any reference to intentional contact in this area.

"The committee feels it is important to clarify this rule for officials and by taking a player?s intention out of the equation, we hope this will assist proper enforcement of this rule,? Broyles said. ?That said, it should be clear when a player uses his helmet to punish an opponent, it is a foul and must be penalized. This type of act is dangerous for both the player being hit and the player doing the hitting.?
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Where I can still stand firm on Jay's play as being sound is that he was playing heads-up. Where the refs stood is that they were protecting the quarterback, who is one of the specifically listed examples of players to protect. Example, when helmet contact occurs if the QB is "unprotected." One example of which is while he is in the process of throwing the ball. In the end my opinion is just that, and their call is the one that counts.

We may see few other examples of this precise play called as a PF during the season, but this I doubt, will be the last occasion.
 
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