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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

How disappointing, xrayrandy has within one evening retracted from his first stance of ?I?ll eat crow like a good fella? to his prior and constant position of under-estimating and denigrating an opponent that took it to his team and beat them fair and square. Not willing to ever concede that he might be wrong, or was wrong, and he was and is both. Not willing to really accept that his team simply was beaten. It is a truly delusional and sad performance.
 
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bchorn;604789; said:
Uhh...with the quality OSU has in their offensive line and Pittman/Wells, I'm going to say their rushing offense is just fine and that our rushing defense is pretty darn good!
xrayrandy;604855; said:
Actually when I first saw your offensive line take the field (from the 4th row), I was amazed at how out of shape they were, like a bunch of Pillsbury Dough Boys.

Dude...did you even look at my screen name when you were responding to my post. I'm bchorn. I'm an objective horn fan that's going to give the other team props instead of tearing them down just to feel better about my own team.
 
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It's just a flesh wound!
 
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In all seriousness, now that we've had our fun...can somebody just ban him? It's obvious that any posts from here on out (if he were to return) would be for the sole purpose of pissing us off. He called our O-Line "doughboys"...I doubt he's trying to illicit any kind of intelligent conversation with a comment like that.
 
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NFBuck;605031; said:
In all seriousness, now that we've had our fun...can somebody just ban him? It's obvious that any posts from here on out (if he were to return) would be for the sole purpose of pissing us off. He called our O-Line "doughboys"...I doubt he's trying to illicit any kind of intelligent conversation with a comment like that.
I'm pretty certain these stupid little games he's playing are the only source of enjoyment left in his collapsing, self-destruct universe.

I don't think I'd have the heart to take this away from him now. :cry:
 
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xrayrandy;604855; said:
Actually when I first saw your offensive line take the field (from the 4th row), I was amazed at how out of shape they were, like a bunch of Pillsbury Dough Boys. At that point I knew my estimate that tOSU would rush for 70 yards might be too high. As it turned out it was pretty close.

My estimate of your offense scoring 14-17 points (excluding points off turnovers) was right on, as you had 14 and would have had 17 if the kick wasn't missed. Although, if that kick was straighter Robison's hand was in the way.
funny how the second string Pillsbury Doughboys played the whole series on the first TD drive... also funny that in the 4th quarter, when the Horns absolutely HAD to have a stop, Pittman was able to punch it in... guess who looked gassed and overheated in the 4th quarter? (hint: it wasn't the team wearing white jerseys.)

don't fool yourself, Randy. Ohio State only threw the ball seven times in the second half... Tressel knew Texas wasn't going to score, and chose to run the ball and eat clock... had Ohio State come out and passed 20 times in the second half, that game could have gotten REALLY ugly for the Horns...

you should be thankful that Tressel doesn't run up the score. it was there all day if he wanted it...
 
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NFBuck;605031; said:
In all seriousness, now that we've had our fun...can somebody just ban him? It's obvious that any posts from here on out (if he were to return) would be for the sole purpose of pissing us off. He called our O-Line "doughboys"...I doubt he's trying to illicit any kind of intelligent conversation with a comment like that.
please don't ban him... it's good to have him around... makes me thankful that God has blessed me with a (fairly) sound mind...
 
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lvbuckeye;605066; said:
funny how the second string Pillsbury Doughboys played the whole series on the first TD drive... also funny that in the 4th quarter, when the Horns absolutely HAD to have a stop, Pittman was able to punch it in... guess who looked gassed and overheated in the 4th quarter? (hint: it wasn't the team wearing white jerseys.)

don't fool yourself, Randy. Ohio State only threw the ball seven times in the second half... Tressel knew Texas wasn't going to score, and chose to run the ball and eat clock... had Ohio State come out and passed 20 times in the second half, that game could have gotten REALLY ugly for the Horns...

you should be thankful that Tressel doesn't run up the score. it was there all day if he wanted it...

And there it is...

Out of all of the statistical gems that xray produced, he managed to find the only one that seemed to suggest that he might have been right about something. But the only reason that our offense only scored 14 points that weren't off of turnovers was because we didn't need them.

As our friend in Las Vegas has demonstrated, Tressel had Troy throw the ball a scant 7 times in the second half. How does that compare to the first half? Let's put it this way, Troy passed 10 times on first down alone in the first half. There was only ONE first down pass in the second half.

We needed to burn clock, and that's exactly what happened. If we had needed points, we would have scored them. Shoot, we scored them with our 2nd string O-Line (a 50 yard drive, but go ahead and call it "points off a turnover" if you must).
 
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DDN

ABC's tribute to Texas coach not a good fit

By Sean McClelland
Staff Writer

Wednesday, September 13, 2006
As time ticked away in Ohio State's no-contest victory over Texas, ABC treated viewers to a Gene Chizik tribute.
Chizik is the Texas defensive coordinator. His team trailed by a wide margin Saturday night when suddenly he entered our living rooms for several minutes as announcer Brent Musburger propped him up as one of the great assistant coaches of all-time and predicted he will make a fine head coach.
All this, mind you, while Chizik's defense was being gashed by Ohio State.
It took ex-Buckeye Kirk Herbstreit to point out that OSU defensive coordinator Jim Heacock probably deserved a little credit, too. Finally, a sideline shot of Heacock found its way to the screen.
I'm not one of these people who thinks announcers play favorites. The national guys generally call it pretty much down the middle.
Musburger's biggest crime is that he's everywhere ? has been since the '70s, save for a brief period after CBS fired him. He's the Jim McKay of his era, only infinitely more annoying.
You accept Musburger, but when you compound his presence with stories that don't even fit what's happening, it taints a broadcast.
Granted, the game was a blowout at the end, and you do anything to hold the audience. But I don't think Gene Chizik's life story (I thought I heard violins in the background) held anyone's attention. In fact, it probably only served to irritate Buckeye fans.
Chizik's a brilliant guy whose reputation speaks for itself, but at that stage, the only real story was how Troy Smith, Ted Ginn Jr. and Co. had taken his defense apart.
 
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Defense takes lumps after loss to Ohio State September 12, 2006
AUSTIN (AP) ? Gene Chizik looked and sounded like he hadn't slept in two days. It's understandable if he hadn't. Texas' defensive co-coordinator hadn't lost a game since he was an assistant at Auburn in 2003 until Saturday night's 24-7 loss to No. 1 Ohio State.
Against the Buckeyes, the Longhorns (1-1) gave up big plays through the air in the first half, looked confused in pass coverage all night and couldn't come up with a defensive stand when the sputtering offense needed it the most.
Chizik's message to the media on Monday: Blame him.
"We didn't get the job done on defense," Chizik said, "and that starts with me."
Head coach Mack Brown wasn't quite so direct, but despite an offense that managed just one touchdown, he delivered most of his postgame lumps to his defense.
"We needed to step up," Brown said, "but we didn't."
Brown ripped through several defensive lapses:
? No turnovers. Texas didn't force a fumble or have an interception.
? Receivers wide open in the secondary. Concentrating on stopping Buckeyes receiver Ted Ginn Jr., Texas gave up huge yards and a touchdown to Anthony Gonzalez, who had a career night in the first half.
"Too many people open too many times," Brown said.
? Key drives for touchdowns. The Buckeyes converted Texas turnovers in the first and third quarters into points with a touchdown and a field goal.
Nothing bothered him more than the Buckeyes' final drive of the first half.
Texas had just tied the game 7-7 when the Buckeyes answered with a quick drive for a score that seem to suck the life right out of the Royal-Memorial Stadium crowd of 89,422. Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith delivered the dagger with a perfect 29-yard TD pass to Ginn with 16 seconds left.
"That just took all the momentum away," Brown said.
"Coach Brown has his opinion and he's a coach who's been in this game a lot longer than I have. I can't argue with what he said," senior safety Michael Griffin said. "You can't really point the finger at anybody. It was a team effort."
Chizik is considered one of the top defensive coordinators in college, but the Longhorns defenders appeared confused by the Ohio State passing attack.
"We thought they would take more of a running game approach," Chizik said. Instead, the Buckeyes had more pass attempts than runs in the first half.
On their first touchdown drive, the Buckeyes covered 50 yards in five plays. Four were passes, three to Gonzalez who seemed to find open space wherever he went.
On the next scoring drive, the Longhorns got burned when they tried to improvise. Strong safety Marcus Griffin twisted his ankle in the first quarter and his brother Michael said Monday they agreed to switch on the play that resulted in Ginn's TD.
Ginn flew by cornerback Aaron Ross and Marcus Griffin, who was lined up too far inside, couldn't roll over quickly enough to offer deep cover support. It was the same play Ohio State burned Texas with for a touchdown last season.
"We just tried to do too much," Michael Griffin said.
When asked about their switch, Chizik declined comment. He also refused to blame the lapses in the secondary on the one-game suspension of top cover corner Tarell Brown, who was reinstated on Monday.
"I think that's an easy way out," Chizik said. "It was just a combination of things that just weren't good."
Chizik said every problem he saw is correctable before the Longhorns play Rice (0-2) on Saturday.
"And it will be," he said. "Losing stinks."
 
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How disappointing, xrayrandy has within one evening retracted from his first stance of ?I?ll eat crow like a good fella? to his prior and constant position of under-estimating and denigrating an opponent that took it to his team and beat them fair and square. Not willing to ever concede that he might be wrong, or was wrong, and he was and is both. Not willing to really accept that his team simply was beaten. It is a truly delusional and sad performance.

Well, if posters want to continue baiting me I'll keep responding in my consistent manner. If nothing else I hope it has had some entertainment value.

As for the game, after the 14 point swing created by the Billy Pittman Fumble and the subsequent return, I knew the game was lost. A 14 point swing in a game like that is a killer.

I underestimated the dropoff in talent behind Tarell Brown. I also underestimated your coaches ability to find holes in our zone with the slot receiver, they and the tOSU players did a great job. That said, they still didn't score any more than I expected given the turnovers.

My vote (if I had one) for game MVP would go to your punter, what a weapon. We would get a 3 and out on defense and end up starting the next drive at the 20 anyway. That is some weapon. Losing the field position battle (again) was very costly for Texas.

On offense it is unfortunate that Greg Davis has gone from predictable play calling, to "no one in their right mind would call that play" play calling. Third and one stretch play against 9 man front, or option plays on 3rd and 10 or 16, are stupid, or option at all with Colt. It is also beyond me, why a player who is averaging 9 yards a carry only gets 11 carries. On a broader basis the entire offensive scheme was not well conceived given the personell. The only good thing he came up with was a counter to the stretch play. Someone called it his East-West offense, and that about sums it up.

But, we could have run for 250 yards if we had stuck with the running game. That and the turnovers was the difference.
 
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Call it a 14-point swing if you like.

I think it's more accurately described it as a 7-point swing plus a 30-yard gain in field position. tOSU still drove 50 yards with the second team O-line to get that first score.

And you also seem to conveniently ignore the fact the Tressel could have scored more points in the second half if he needed them.
 
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