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xrayrandy
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What do you think the chances of that happening are?
If you want a serious answer, your running offense and defense still is a work in progress. Someone may beat you if Troy Smith has a bad day. Still you have as good a chance as anyone to make it to Glendale.
With OU and Tech looking beatable, Texas has a decent chance of winning out from here. Not many teams will score 20 on our D. In short the possibility of a rematch exists, depending on what other teams do.
But that isn't what I meant. My comment was really speaking to the future as well. Both teams should be top 5 material for the foreseeable future, and both have relatively easy schedules for next year, for example. I think we'll meet again, and we won't have to wait too long.
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Mobyhorn
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I enjoyed meeting your fans and sharing tailgates. I live downtown and met quite a few of them.
As for Texas winning out and possibly going for a rematch, a lot of things beyond our control will have to happen--especially the futures of Auburn, USC and Notre Dame.
As far as what is within our control, I noted a very frank review of the Texas defense by Chizik, our coordinator. That will have to improve as well as the QBs settling in. Sorry I don't have the link right now, but you can go to www.statesman.com for today's coverage and look at the Chizik comments. Monday's coverage has some more info.
Good luck with your season. It's not out of the realm of possibility we could meet again this year, but it's a stretch and we'll have to see. If it happened that would be a first, I believe.
As for Texas winning out and possibly going for a rematch, a lot of things beyond our control will have to happen--especially the futures of Auburn, USC and Notre Dame.
As far as what is within our control, I noted a very frank review of the Texas defense by Chizik, our coordinator. That will have to improve as well as the QBs settling in. Sorry I don't have the link right now, but you can go to www.statesman.com for today's coverage and look at the Chizik comments. Monday's coverage has some more info.
Good luck with your season. It's not out of the realm of possibility we could meet again this year, but it's a stretch and we'll have to see. If it happened that would be a first, I believe.
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OregonBuckeye
Semper Fi Buckeyes
xrayrandy;604716; said:
Why do you tiptoe around your dumb predictions and statements? Be a man and admit you said some really stupid stuff leading up to the game and vastly underestimated us.
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A couple more from over the summer, just for grins...
UTMNC Discussing Snead and/or McCoy:
Turns out Taos was more or less correct....
Seems Ginn worked out a little bit this summer to increase his burst, and was able to run across the entire field in route to a 46 yard gain ... blowing by UT's LBs.
And, my personal favorite:
Smith, of course, played so bad that he's currently in the "lead" for the 06 Heisman.
UTMNC Discussing Snead and/or McCoy:
UTMNC said:
Turns out Taos was more or less correct....
UTMNC;533885; said:
Seems Ginn worked out a little bit this summer to increase his burst, and was able to run across the entire field in route to a 46 yard gain ... blowing by UT's LBs.
And, my personal favorite:
UTMNC;524256; said:
Smith, of course, played so bad that he's currently in the "lead" for the 06 Heisman.
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gregorylee
I'd rather be napping!!
Mobyhorn;604742; said:
I fixed your post for you Moby....
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theozone
By the Numbers
By Jeff Amey
Ohio State squared off with the Texas Longhorns on Saturday night for a rematch of last year's slugfest and came away with a dominating 24-7 win that solidifies the Buckeye's #1 ranking in the early part of this season. The Longhorns were never really able to get a consistant offensive attack going, and the Buckeye offense looked very good on occasions, despite not being able to run the ball very well.
Run/Pass Breakdown
55 Total Plays--348 yards--6.3 ypp
26 pass (47%)--17/26 for 269 yards 2 TD
29 runs (53%) for 79 yards 1 TD--2.7 ypc
11 Total Drives
ave. of 5.0 plays--31.6 yards
ave. start--OSU 32
1st Down--26 plays (47%) for 172 yards
11 pass (42%)--7/11 for 127 yards 1 TD
15 runs (58%) for 45 yards--3.0 ypc
ave. gain of 6.6 yards
2nd Down--18 plays (33%) for 127 yards
9 pass (50%)--6/9 for 109 yards
9 runs (50%) for 18 yards 1 TD--2.0 ypc
ave. of 9.0 yards to go
ave. gain of 7.1 yards
3rd Down--11 plays (20%) for 49 yards
5 pass (45%)--3/5 for 31 yards
6 runs (55%) for 18 yards--3.0 ypc
ave. of 7.9 yards to go
ave. gain of 4.5 yards
conversions--3/11 (27%)
Playaction Passing
3/5 for 55 yards 1 TD
First Downs--14
2 by run
11 by pass
1 by penalty
FORMATION BREAKDOWN
Two back formations--17 plays (31%)
2 pass (12%)--2/2 for 36 yards
15 runs (88%) for 30 yards 1 TD--2.0 ypc
Shotgun formations--26 plays (47%)
20 pass (77%)--13/20 for 209 yards 1 TD
6 runs (23%) for -3 yards--(-0.5) ypc
One back formations--12 plays (22%)
4 pass (33%)--2/4 for 24 yards 1 TD
8 runs (67%) for 52 yards--6.5 ypc
RUN TYPE BREAKDOWN--29 carries
counter/trap--none
draw--1 (3%) for 0 yards--0.0 ypc
sweep--2 (7%) for 14 yards--7.0 ypc
end around--none
base/iso--3 (10%) for 7 yards--2.3 ypc
power--7 (24%) for 32 yards 1 TD--4.6 ypc
QB run/scramble--6 (21%) for -16 yards--(-2.7) ypc
stretch--8 (28%) for 35 yards--4.4 ypc
option--1 (3%) for 4 yards--4.0 ypc
Other Stats of Note*6 offensive penalties for the game
*OSU started on UT side of 50 one time--1 FG
*3 for 4 in Red Zone scoring--2 TD 1 FG
*Two sacks (one an intentional grounding) and no turnovers
*22 of 55 plays took place on UT side of 50--(40%)
*17 of 55 plays went for no gain or loss--(31%)
*Troy Smith halftime stats--13/19 for 219 yards 2 TD
*OSU second half yardage--24 plays for 102 yards
Going into this game, it looked to be a matchup of strength on strength (OSU offense vs. Texas defense) and weakness on weakness (OSU defense vs. Texas offense) and the game lived up to billling. The Ohio State offense came out and dominated the Texas defense, especially in the first half, en route to their big win. The Buckeye defense, on the other hand, started slowly against the Texas offense (especially in the first quarter), but did enough in the end to preserve the Buckeye win. Props have to go to the Texas fans, players and coaches for their graciousness, even in defeat.
The difference in this game was evident right from the start. Troy Smith may have vaulted himself into the role of Heisman frontrunner after his game against the Longhorns. Troy exuded confidence from the first snap and basically took over the first half of this game with his with his arm going 13/19 for 219 yards and two touchdowns. It seemed the Longhorns also spent some time in preparation expecting Troy to do more scrambling, but Troy stayed in the pocket similar to last week and made the plays in the passing game. You won't get very many examples of good quarterbacking such as the one Troy made on OSU's last play of the first half, where he checked off to Ginn, who had single, tight coverage for a touchdown.
This game may have also marked the emergence of Anthony Gonzalez as one of the top receivers in the nation. While the Longhorns spent much of the first half trying to make sure Ted Ginn didn't beat them, Gonzalez rang up some huge numbers (7 catches for 122 yards and a TD). Add in Ginn's 5 catches for the game for another near 100 yards and some timely catches by Brian Robinskie, and it seems as if this receiver corps is going to be a major chore for any opposing team to deal with this season.
It was disappointing that the Ohio State running game didn't do any better than it did, only running up 79 yards on the day, but the Texas run defense looked to be very good, and likely to be one of the better run defenses the Buckeyes will face this season. Despite the run game looking a little rough, Antonio Pittman did run for 75 yards on 16 carries and a touchdown on the day. Surprisingly, there were a lot of negative yards from the quarterback position that helped hold down the rushing total for the day.
After the game, Troy Smith spent a lot of time deflecting the praise from him to the offensive line and coaches, and with good reason. Despite Texas doing a lot of blitzing and having a very good front four, Troy had a lot of time in the pocket on most pass plays. The Longhorns did get to him twice, but overall, it was a very good day for the Offensive linemen in pass protection. As was already stated, it wasn't the best day for the Ohio State rushing game, but the Texas safeties were very good in run support, effectively holding what might have been bigger gains to gains of 3 or 4 yards on many running plays.
As for the Ohio State coaches, their gameplan was nothing short of brilliant for this game. If you had told me before the season started that Ohio State would play as many players as they did in this game (substitutions were so liberal that I lost track by the end of the first quarter) and win the game, I would've told you that you were crazy. There are a lot of players on the roster now that have gotten good experience in pressure situations. Despite the defense looking rough at times, especially in run defense, the fact that so many players have seen the field can only help as the season wears on.
As for the defense, it's evident that there is still a lot of work to do. To be fair, however, it is well known that the Texas offensive line was going to be one of the better ones that Ohio State faced this season. Add to that equation a couple of quick backs, and you have the makings of a fairly tough run offense, but it is still no excuse for the lack of good tackling and the inability of the linebackers and safeties to shed blocks and make plays.
On the bright side, after getting gashed time and again in the first quarter with outside running plays, the coaching staff made some adjustments out of nickel alignments that they played almost exclusively in the first quarter and moved to a 4-3 look with the strong side linebacker on the line. The result was much better defense against the run for the rest of the game. Texas had 93 yards rushing at the end of the first quarter, but were only able to gain 79 more through the final three quarters to finish with 172. Despite better run defense, it was disconcerting for the safeties to be virtually invisible in run support, and the linebackers having trouble shedding blocks, especially on outside runs.
The defensive backfield acquitted themselves pretty well again in this game, but again were not really tested downfield. Texas QB Colt McCoy spent most of his afternoon completing receiver screen passes and either swings to the halfbacks or short routes to the receivers. On one of the few downfield passes Texas attempted Malcolm Jenkins made a spectacular play on a jump ball with Texas wide receiver Limus Sweed. It seems clear that Jenkins is the top cornerback on the team.
The linebackers were the area that most Buckeye fans were most concerned about heading into this game, and the water didn't really get much clearer. After being spoiled by the likes of Hawk, Carpenter, and Schlegel, the linebacking position has gone from a position of great strength to probably being the greatest weakness on this team.
A lot has been made about James Laurinaitis in this game, and while his statistics were gaudy (13 tackles {10 solo}, 1 pass breakup, 1 INT, and 2 forced fumbles), he didn't really have that great of a game. A lot of his credited tackles came from pushing the runner out of bounds or running him down from behind 5-10 yards downfield. His play from game one to game two was markedly better, but he still has a lot of work to do, especially in run support.
As for the other linebackers, the person that really stood out over the course of the game was Curtis Terry. Though he saw only limited action, he was a force when he was in the game, shedding blockers and disrupting things in the backfield. If any player earned themselves more playing time from this game, it has to be him. Now that the Buckeyes have gotten through what was supposed to be a hot and humid game down south, I expect the player participation to shrink considerably and the regulars on this defense to start emerging.
Next up for the Buckeyes is the Cincinnati Bearcats. This could be a dangerous game only because it is sandwiched in between some much bigger games for the Buckeyes, but I don't think Troy Smith and the coaching staff will let this team get complacent. Now that the Buckeyes have gotten past the Longhorns, some of the worries can be replaced by excitement as Ohio State barrels towards conference play in two weeks.
By the Numbers
By Jeff Amey
Ohio State squared off with the Texas Longhorns on Saturday night for a rematch of last year's slugfest and came away with a dominating 24-7 win that solidifies the Buckeye's #1 ranking in the early part of this season. The Longhorns were never really able to get a consistant offensive attack going, and the Buckeye offense looked very good on occasions, despite not being able to run the ball very well.
Run/Pass Breakdown
55 Total Plays--348 yards--6.3 ypp
26 pass (47%)--17/26 for 269 yards 2 TD
29 runs (53%) for 79 yards 1 TD--2.7 ypc
11 Total Drives
ave. of 5.0 plays--31.6 yards
ave. start--OSU 32
1st Down--26 plays (47%) for 172 yards
11 pass (42%)--7/11 for 127 yards 1 TD
15 runs (58%) for 45 yards--3.0 ypc
ave. gain of 6.6 yards
2nd Down--18 plays (33%) for 127 yards
9 pass (50%)--6/9 for 109 yards
9 runs (50%) for 18 yards 1 TD--2.0 ypc
ave. of 9.0 yards to go
ave. gain of 7.1 yards
3rd Down--11 plays (20%) for 49 yards
5 pass (45%)--3/5 for 31 yards
6 runs (55%) for 18 yards--3.0 ypc
ave. of 7.9 yards to go
ave. gain of 4.5 yards
conversions--3/11 (27%)
Playaction Passing
3/5 for 55 yards 1 TD
First Downs--14
2 by run
11 by pass
1 by penalty
FORMATION BREAKDOWN
Two back formations--17 plays (31%)
2 pass (12%)--2/2 for 36 yards
15 runs (88%) for 30 yards 1 TD--2.0 ypc
Shotgun formations--26 plays (47%)
20 pass (77%)--13/20 for 209 yards 1 TD
6 runs (23%) for -3 yards--(-0.5) ypc
One back formations--12 plays (22%)
4 pass (33%)--2/4 for 24 yards 1 TD
8 runs (67%) for 52 yards--6.5 ypc
RUN TYPE BREAKDOWN--29 carries
counter/trap--none
draw--1 (3%) for 0 yards--0.0 ypc
sweep--2 (7%) for 14 yards--7.0 ypc
end around--none
base/iso--3 (10%) for 7 yards--2.3 ypc
power--7 (24%) for 32 yards 1 TD--4.6 ypc
QB run/scramble--6 (21%) for -16 yards--(-2.7) ypc
stretch--8 (28%) for 35 yards--4.4 ypc
option--1 (3%) for 4 yards--4.0 ypc
Other Stats of Note
*OSU started on UT side of 50 one time--1 FG
*3 for 4 in Red Zone scoring--2 TD 1 FG
*Two sacks (one an intentional grounding) and no turnovers
*22 of 55 plays took place on UT side of 50--(40%)
*17 of 55 plays went for no gain or loss--(31%)
*Troy Smith halftime stats--13/19 for 219 yards 2 TD
*OSU second half yardage--24 plays for 102 yards
Going into this game, it looked to be a matchup of strength on strength (OSU offense vs. Texas defense) and weakness on weakness (OSU defense vs. Texas offense) and the game lived up to billling. The Ohio State offense came out and dominated the Texas defense, especially in the first half, en route to their big win. The Buckeye defense, on the other hand, started slowly against the Texas offense (especially in the first quarter), but did enough in the end to preserve the Buckeye win. Props have to go to the Texas fans, players and coaches for their graciousness, even in defeat.
The difference in this game was evident right from the start. Troy Smith may have vaulted himself into the role of Heisman frontrunner after his game against the Longhorns. Troy exuded confidence from the first snap and basically took over the first half of this game with his with his arm going 13/19 for 219 yards and two touchdowns. It seemed the Longhorns also spent some time in preparation expecting Troy to do more scrambling, but Troy stayed in the pocket similar to last week and made the plays in the passing game. You won't get very many examples of good quarterbacking such as the one Troy made on OSU's last play of the first half, where he checked off to Ginn, who had single, tight coverage for a touchdown.
This game may have also marked the emergence of Anthony Gonzalez as one of the top receivers in the nation. While the Longhorns spent much of the first half trying to make sure Ted Ginn didn't beat them, Gonzalez rang up some huge numbers (7 catches for 122 yards and a TD). Add in Ginn's 5 catches for the game for another near 100 yards and some timely catches by Brian Robinskie, and it seems as if this receiver corps is going to be a major chore for any opposing team to deal with this season.
It was disappointing that the Ohio State running game didn't do any better than it did, only running up 79 yards on the day, but the Texas run defense looked to be very good, and likely to be one of the better run defenses the Buckeyes will face this season. Despite the run game looking a little rough, Antonio Pittman did run for 75 yards on 16 carries and a touchdown on the day. Surprisingly, there were a lot of negative yards from the quarterback position that helped hold down the rushing total for the day.
After the game, Troy Smith spent a lot of time deflecting the praise from him to the offensive line and coaches, and with good reason. Despite Texas doing a lot of blitzing and having a very good front four, Troy had a lot of time in the pocket on most pass plays. The Longhorns did get to him twice, but overall, it was a very good day for the Offensive linemen in pass protection. As was already stated, it wasn't the best day for the Ohio State rushing game, but the Texas safeties were very good in run support, effectively holding what might have been bigger gains to gains of 3 or 4 yards on many running plays.
As for the Ohio State coaches, their gameplan was nothing short of brilliant for this game. If you had told me before the season started that Ohio State would play as many players as they did in this game (substitutions were so liberal that I lost track by the end of the first quarter) and win the game, I would've told you that you were crazy. There are a lot of players on the roster now that have gotten good experience in pressure situations. Despite the defense looking rough at times, especially in run defense, the fact that so many players have seen the field can only help as the season wears on.
As for the defense, it's evident that there is still a lot of work to do. To be fair, however, it is well known that the Texas offensive line was going to be one of the better ones that Ohio State faced this season. Add to that equation a couple of quick backs, and you have the makings of a fairly tough run offense, but it is still no excuse for the lack of good tackling and the inability of the linebackers and safeties to shed blocks and make plays.
On the bright side, after getting gashed time and again in the first quarter with outside running plays, the coaching staff made some adjustments out of nickel alignments that they played almost exclusively in the first quarter and moved to a 4-3 look with the strong side linebacker on the line. The result was much better defense against the run for the rest of the game. Texas had 93 yards rushing at the end of the first quarter, but were only able to gain 79 more through the final three quarters to finish with 172. Despite better run defense, it was disconcerting for the safeties to be virtually invisible in run support, and the linebackers having trouble shedding blocks, especially on outside runs.
The defensive backfield acquitted themselves pretty well again in this game, but again were not really tested downfield. Texas QB Colt McCoy spent most of his afternoon completing receiver screen passes and either swings to the halfbacks or short routes to the receivers. On one of the few downfield passes Texas attempted Malcolm Jenkins made a spectacular play on a jump ball with Texas wide receiver Limus Sweed. It seems clear that Jenkins is the top cornerback on the team.
The linebackers were the area that most Buckeye fans were most concerned about heading into this game, and the water didn't really get much clearer. After being spoiled by the likes of Hawk, Carpenter, and Schlegel, the linebacking position has gone from a position of great strength to probably being the greatest weakness on this team.
A lot has been made about James Laurinaitis in this game, and while his statistics were gaudy (13 tackles {10 solo}, 1 pass breakup, 1 INT, and 2 forced fumbles), he didn't really have that great of a game. A lot of his credited tackles came from pushing the runner out of bounds or running him down from behind 5-10 yards downfield. His play from game one to game two was markedly better, but he still has a lot of work to do, especially in run support.
As for the other linebackers, the person that really stood out over the course of the game was Curtis Terry. Though he saw only limited action, he was a force when he was in the game, shedding blockers and disrupting things in the backfield. If any player earned themselves more playing time from this game, it has to be him. Now that the Buckeyes have gotten through what was supposed to be a hot and humid game down south, I expect the player participation to shrink considerably and the regulars on this defense to start emerging.
Next up for the Buckeyes is the Cincinnati Bearcats. This could be a dangerous game only because it is sandwiched in between some much bigger games for the Buckeyes, but I don't think Troy Smith and the coaching staff will let this team get complacent. Now that the Buckeyes have gotten past the Longhorns, some of the worries can be replaced by excitement as Ohio State barrels towards conference play in two weeks.
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xrayrandy
Blowhard Statistician
Actually when I first saw your offensive line take the field (from the 4th row), I was amazed at how out of shape they were, like a bunch of Pillsbury Dough Boys. At that point I knew my estimate that tOSU would rush for 70 yards might be too high. As it turned out it was pretty close.
My estimate of your offense scoring 14-17 points (excluding points off turnovers) was right on, as you had 14 and would have had 17 if the kick wasn't missed. Although, if that kick was straighter Robison's hand was in the way.
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OSUsushichic
Fired up! Ready to go!
Well, if our D is a work in progress, but you don't see anyone scoring 20 pts on us, I'll take that "work in progress"!!!
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