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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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Yup I did go overboard on Hall, I guess it was anticipation. As to the rest;

Xray said "Colt McCoy was nearly perfect today. He had two drives against the #2 defense and the team scored 2 touchdowns.
Snead played more like a freshman struggling a lot against the #1 defense while guiding the 2s and a little against the 2s while playing with the 1s. He showed great arm strength but forced his passes and didn't seem comfortable in the pocket. He got picked by a freshman safety Robert Joseph. Sweed was the leading receiver and looked great on 43 and 16 yard catches. "
Hardly sounds like All Americans let alone as someone who is going to be a good team leader from the get go. Their receivers have to have someone to get them the ball for them to be weapons.

Xray Said "Selvin young had 4 carries for 56 yards and a TD He was very fast breaking one off tackle run for good yardage and cutting back on a zone read run that the defense defended well, but left the backside open for a 24 yard gain. Charles also looked sharp with 3 carries for 31 yards".

They do have good running backs as I said at least for charles. heck anyone who can average over ten yards a carry over texas' all american defense has to be good.

GO BUCKS! :oh: :io:
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What's so hard to believe here? Colt has been practicing against the first string defense all summer so is it any surprise that he plays well against the second string defense?
 
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From CFN's 30 Key Questions for 2006 [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif] Richard Cirminiello[/FONT]
About the Buckeye D and reloading.
[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif] 5. Ohio State lost nine starters on defense, so who will the next wave of stars be?
Hey, you’re in Columbus, where four and five-star recruits flock to the city like it’s a pilgrimage. Yeah, the Ohio State D lost a ton of talent from 2005, including six players taken in the first four rounds of the NFL Draft, but that just means there’ll be a whole new group of headliners this fall. Linebackers Marcus Freeman, Larry Grant, James Laurinaitis, John Kerr and Ross Homan. Defensive backs Malcolm Jenkins, Jamario O'Neal, Nick Patterson, Anderson Russell and Kurt Coleman. Defensive ends Lawrence Wilson and Vernon Gholston. Names you probably don’t recognize today, but ones you’re going to know by October or November. And ones that’ll be called in the next couple of NFL Drafts.
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How big of a loss is Vince Young?
[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif] 1. Can Texas repeat with a freshman under center?
You don’t get better by losing Vince Young, but if you believe the ‘Horns are about to suffer some kind of a collapse, you’re way too VY-centric. Texas remains loaded just about everywhere and finally has an off-season swagger, but Young’s heir apparent is going to be, well, young. Not-yet-drinking-age young. Thanks to an extra year in the system, redshirt freshman Colt McCoy is the favorite, but true freshman Jevan Snead has the rifle to mount a challenge next month. What does all this mean? 1. The champs will be a whole lot easier to defense than the last two years. 2. Backs Selvin Young, Jamaal Charles and Henry Melton better focus on conditioning and 3. Texas is still a Top 5 team with as good a shot as anyone of ending 2006 in Arizona on Jan. 8. [/FONT]
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This last isn't about this thread - but it was kind of interesting ..
How much is the ND Defense improved, if at all?
[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif]3. Has the Notre Dame defense made big enough strides from last year to justify a Top 5 preseason ranking?
With their big three guns returning on offense, the Irish may be able to out score all of this year’s opponents, but that’s not the typical path to a championship. Partake in enough shootouts, and you’re bound to take the occasional bullet. Notre Dame won’t win many games with a stifling D, but improving on last year’s 9-3 mark means the defense has to stiffen, particularly in pass coverage. Stopping the run is doable, but it was painfully clear in 2005 that there’s a deficiency of speed and corners that can cover. Charlie Weis and staff have had more than half a year to try and address this pressing issue. More pressure up front and true freshman Darrin Walls and Raeshon McNeil must develop real fast, or else the Irish will have to win a lot of 37-34 games. [/FONT]
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But, back on subject.:tongue2:

I really think if Troy helps us win at Texas and Beats Michigan and a Bowl team, tall order sure, but possible with this team.
Troy Smith would get my vote as THE Greatest QB ever at Ohio State!

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Can we break from history?

Certainly the Buckeye’s year Will hinge on the UT game. And after scanning this thread I have a few points to add to the discussion.

The Tressel era pattern that has emerged is tough, consistent D and slow starting Offense. Plus, we’ve been blessed with two standout field goal specialists.. a huge factor in last year’s game. Based on all the BP speculation, we just might reverse this trend. Here’s a list of past trends to consider:


1. Slow starting offense. Will the loss of Mangold be offset by a tough running back duo in Wells and Pittman? And, will a graduated, focused Troy Smith break all the records at tOSU?

2. Predictable play calling. Will JT and Bollman be able to open the playbook wide, early? For me It’s up to the O line. Plus TS can turn just about any broken play into a first down. And Ted Ginn turned into a real route runner late last season. Good stuff!

3. Consistent low scoring Defense. The 64 million dollar question is, of course, what will happen here. If a long-drive clock eating offense can keep our D rested, then maybe this isn’t as big a factor. Plus, just about every national writer is overlooking the playing time our backups got last year. I’m with the guys who think we’re more experienced than people give us credit for.

4. Quarterback killers. During the last ten years we’ve watched big name QB after big name QB come up against our D and get shut down. Last year VY may have been the first QB to really be a difference in a big game against us. Well, he’s gone, enough said. Plus I believe we beat ourselves on execution, not points.

5. Great special teams. This one really has me worried most. Something happened late last season that sent our special teams in the wrong direction (two blocked fg’s against ND etc..). And this year the task will be formidable with a new kicker. If we’re in a low scoring game, this could be the difference.

All in all I think we win this game by 10 points. UT will need a miraculous performance from its QB to win his second college game ever against a #1 ranked opponent.
 
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MondayAMGenius said:
2. Predictable play calling. Will JT and Bollman be able to open the playbook wide, early? For me It’s up to the O line. Plus TS can turn just about any broken play into a first down. And Ted Ginn turned into a real route runner late last season. Good stuff!


All in all I think we win this game by 10 points. UT will need a miraculous performance from its QB to win his second college game ever against a #1 ranked opponent.
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You talk about smith turning every broken play into a first down. But did you ever notice both him and ginn were no shows against every defense they faced ranked 36th or better. Michigan only 25 points texas only 22 and penn state 10. And before you bring up notre dame remember the mighty stanford cardinals put up only 3 less points on them than you guys did and notre dame was ranked 75th overall in total defense.
 
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MondayAMGenius said:
4. Quarterback killers. During the last ten years we’ve watched big name QB after big name QB come up against our D and get shut down. Last year VY may have been the first QB to really be a difference in a big game against us. Well, he’s gone, enough said. Plus I believe we beat ourselves on execution, not points.


All in all I think we win this game by 10 points. UT will need a miraculous performance from its QB to win his second college game ever against a #1 ranked opponent.
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Didnt Brady quinn go 29 for 45 for 286 yards and no int's? And wasnt your pass defense only ranked 43rd overall in the country? Thats far from killing. By the way Phillip Rivers have 315 yards and 4 td's against a much better 2003 buckeye defense than they will have this year?
 
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You talk about smith turning every broken play into a first down. But did you ever notice both him and ginn were no shows against every defense they faced ranked 36th or better. Michigan only 25 points texas only 22 and penn state 10. And before you bring up notre dame remember the mighty stanford cardinals put up only 3 less points on them than you guys did and notre dame was ranked 75th overall in total defense.
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Good to see you're staying true to form Fever... do you always comment on games you know nothing about?

I sure hope Troy is a 'no show' like he was against UM... 27-37 300 yds 1 td 0 int plus a rushing td. Man, that really stinks!
Didnt Brady quinn go 29 for 45 for 286 yards and no int's? And wasnt your pass defense only ranked 43rd overall in the country? Thats far from killing. By the way Phillip Rivers have 315 yards and 4 td's against a much better 2003 buckeye defense than they will have this year?
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so in the last argument its points that matter, but now that it doesn't fit your argument, you're sticking with yardage. :lol:

The mighty Quinn had no td passes... including a drive that ended after 4 downs from right in front of the goal line. As for the yardage, Quinn racked up almost 1/3 of it late in the game against a prevent D, designed to milk the clock (which worked quite well).
I think most people still expect the OSU defense to be good. The question is will how much of a drop off will occur from last year's 3rd-in-the-nation- against-the-run defense.
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that's a great question... OSU has been the best team against the run in the last 4 years. If Mike D'Andrea were healthy, I'd have more confidence in the run D that early... the LB position is a little bit behind in camp (lots of shuffling). They will be good against the run, but they have to be great to stop texas' running game.
 
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jwinslow said:
Good to see you're staying true to form Fever... do you always comment on games you know nothing about?

I sure hope Troy is a 'no show' like he was against UM... 27-37 300 yds 1 td 0 int plus a rushing td. Man, that really stinks!so in the last argument its points that matter, but now that it doesn't fit your argument, you're sticking with yardage. :lol:

The mighty Quinn had no td passes... including a drive that ended after 4 downs from right in front of the goal line. As for the yardage, Quinn racked up almost 1/3 of it late in the game against a prevent D, designed to milk the clock (which worked quite well).
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Im sticking with nothing both points and yardage matter im merely pointing out what tosu did against quality defenses.
 
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