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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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xrayrandy said:
At OT we had an All-American last year, Scott, we have one this year Blalock, we will have one next year Hills, and Ulatoski will be AA after that.

At DT we had one last year, Wright, we have one this year Okam, and Roy Miller will be AA after that.

At DE Crowder will likely be AA, but Robison is better. Orakpo will be AA after that. Orakpo was a freshman AA.

At Safety we had an AA last year Huff, and we have one this year Michael Griffin. Last year we had a first year starter at safety Mi Griffin, this year we have a first year starter at safety Marcus Griffin. By the way Marcus was the better of the two in highschool at DB.

At Corner we had one in Cedric Griffin, and this year we will have one or two Brown and Ross.

At LB we had a freshman All-American last year Bobino, and we should have one again this year, Kindle.

At TE we had one last year Thomas , and will have a freshman AA this year, Finley.

We had a Heisman trophy finalist last year, Vince and we will have one this year, and the next, Jamaal.
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:slappy: I literally fell out of my chair laughing at that.
 
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Taosman said:
I don't know who's scarier looking Vern Gholston or Robert Rose?
For what it's worth.
V. G. gets my vote for scariest looking Buckeye! :biggrin:
But Rose isn't far behind!
And our best DE is supposed to be....Wilson? :biggrin:
The potential of these guys is just scary.
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Fuck potential. All those guys will be All Americans and 1st round draft picks.
 
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oh and the part about marcus being better at DB in highschool is slightly misleading since Mike was the stud tail back at the school and if I remember correctly didn't play DB near as often
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Marcus was the starting QB and safety on that team. I don't know about the near as often comment, as I didn't go to any of their games. Marcus had nearly twice as many tackles. That said Michael is more athletic now, but I think Marcus has a chance to become a very good safety (probably not AA material).

Another DB to watch is Erick Jackson. He was rated above Youboty coming out of school and is really doing well this fall.
 
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I personally don't think he is that far off. Ulatoski and Finley have a ways to go
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As far as Ulatoski goes, as impressed as I am with him, I'll defer to the judgement of our former graduate assistant offensive line coach (Now OC at Rice) who said he was the best of all the lineman.

As for Finley I'll just say that you will be convinced the first time you watch him.
 
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xrayrandy said:
We had a Heisman trophy finalist last year, Vince and we will have one this year, and the next, Jamaal.
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I highly doubt this. The thing about Heisman finalists is that they are so hard to predict. Injuries (both to the player and those around him) and losses are just a few of the factors outside the player's control that could affect his Heisman chances, not to mention his simply not having a good year. As a result, I'd hesitate to say that even TS is a lock to be a Heisman finalist this year in the manner that you guaranteed Jamaal would be. Your statement is even more absurd considering the fact that Jamaal's chances of winning the Heisman aren't even in the same ballpark as TS's chances.
 
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xrayrandy said:
At OT we had an All-American last year, Scott, we have one this year Blalock, we will have one next year Hills, and Ulatoski will be AA after that.

At DT we had one last year, Wright, we have one this year Okam, and Roy Miller will be AA after that.

At DE Crowder will likely be AA, but Robison is better. Orakpo will be AA after that. Orakpo was a freshman AA.

At Safety we had an AA last year Huff, and we have one this year Michael Griffin. Last year we had a first year starter at safety Mi Griffin, this year we have a first year starter at safety Marcus Griffin. By the way Marcus was the better of the two in highschool at DB.

At Corner we had one in Cedric Griffin, and this year we will have one or two Brown and Ross.

At LB we had a freshman All-American last year Bobino, and we should have one again this year, Kindle.

At TE we had one last year Thomas , and will have a freshman AA this year, Finley.

We had a Heisman trophy finalist last year, Vince and we will have one this year, and the next, Jamaal.
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This post transcends homerism. Hey xray, if you look at OSU's 2-deep and choose any 10 guys at random, did you know that at least five of them will eventually be All-Americans?
 
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Dryden said:
xray's working on a new film screenplay ... Everybodys An All American!
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Perhaps he has moved into the camp that gives all the players a participation trophy - let's call them Mackie's, each can be inscribed thusly:

"You Will Always Be My All-America"

Thanks for Your Participation - Mack Brown

Fact is that with few exceptions the AA team (the one that counts - AFCA) rarely has three players from a single team, let alone xray's absurd all and sundry list. Why? Because there are many very, very good players on the other 116 D-1A squads, because it is voted on by the AFCA and that means you get a spreading of the wealth. Most importantly though, it is, a team selected by very qualified judges of football talent. I'll leave it to the imagination of our readers where I think that places the quality of xrays abilities to state a rational position. Methinks the high energy photons are eroding the myelin sheaths around his axons.

As for other (non AFCA) All-American lists, Athlon has theirs out.
Offense All-American Athlon 2006
Defense All-American Athlon 2006
Texas has one on O one on D, Blalock and Crowder respectively.
USC has Jarrett, Jackson and Baker, ND, Oklahoma and Penn State each have two, while Ohio State has Ginn on Offense.
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8/13/06

Replacing Young's leadership is Longhorns' biggest challenge

By Jim Vertuno
The Associated Press

AUSTIN – Vince Young used to crack the whip during summer workouts to toughen up his Texas teammates.

He loosened them up in crunch time by laughing and dancing his way through warmups before the biggest games. And, of course, he was the guy the Longhorns counted on to make the plays when Texas needed them the most.

"He was the pied piper," coach Mack Brown said of Young.

As much as Texas will miss Young's touchdown runs and passes, his infectious can't-lose attitude might be the most difficult ingredient for the Longhorns to replace in 2006.

Texas returns 16 starters from the team that won the school's first undisputed national title in 36 years, yet finding another leader like Young might be next to impossible.

Brown is a master recruiter who has filled the roster with blue-chip players year after year. But judging which tailback, defensive end, wide receiver or quarterback will emerge as the next "pied piper" is a guessing game at best.

Will he be the yeller delivering fiery speeches in practice and the locker room? Or the jokester cracking up the bus to the stadium? Will he be the silent type who scores touchdowns and leaves the cheering to his teammates?

Brown says he can't simply anoint the next team leader.

"We (the coaches) can't determine that," he said. "The team determines that. It doesn't have to be a senior. Vince was a junior. (And) halfway through his sophomore year, he started growing into that leadership role."

Nor does it have to be one player. Leadership by committee can work and might even be better, Brown said.

"If the one guy has a bad day," he said, "the whole team has a bad day."

Part of what made Young such a dynamic force was that he was the quarterback. He handled every snap in the big games and calmed nerves in the huddle.

The Longhorns will play a pair of freshmen quarterbacks this season. Neither Colt McCoy and Jevan Snead has even thrown a pass in a college game let alone led the team to a comeback win.

A possible successor mentioned by Longhorns players is senior tailback Selvin Young. He was Vince Young's roommate last year.

Selvin Young rushed for 461 yards and eight touchdowns as a part-time starter last season and said he learned about leadership from watching Vince. The two still regularly text message each other.

"Someone's got to step in and fill shoes that are vacant. Leadership comes when teammates look at a person and think that person is going to go all out and give everything for the team," Selvin Young said. "And at the same time be able to say something to a person who's not doing that."

Vince Young did all that.

He also passed for 3,036 yards and 26 touchdowns last season and ran for 1,050 yards and 12 more scores. He drove Texas to the winning TDs late in the fourth quarter against Ohio State on the road and against Southern California in the Rose Bowl.

Off the field, he got after teammates who didn't give their all in practice or got into some trouble.

All of it blended to perfection.

To avoid complacency after an 11-1 season in 2004, Young left his teammates a message on the locker room grease board: If they wanted to beat Ohio State, they'd better come to voluntary workouts.

To him, they were mandatory.

That was his serious side. He also joked, laughed and led the pregame "flow sessions" of grooving to tunes.

The Longhorns snapped a five-game losing streak to Oklahoma and won Brown's first Big 12 title in '05.

And when Texas was down by five with 19 seconds left in the Rose Bowl? No sweat, baby. Young kept his cool and kept his team rolling right through that fourth down sprint for the end zone that won the game.

Senior offensive guard Kasey Studdard said the veterans remember the work ethic and attitude Young inspired and expected the players to match it this summer.

"It was a little bit different because Vince wasn't there cracking jokes, but as for working out, everybody was there every practice," Studdard said.

"I don't really think anything changed except Vince being gone."

Maybe he's right.

Someone left a similar message about getting ready for Ohio State this year, said sophomore tailback Jamaal Charles, although he doesn't know who wrote it.

Texas will find out quickly who its leaders are. After playing North Texas in the season opener Sept. 2, the Longhorns host the Buckeyes a week later in another game that could be an early barometer on the national championship race.

Brown has less than a month to find his next great leader.

"The great ones know they are going to be successful," Brown said. "Coach (Darrell) Royal always said, 'If you've got 'it,' you'll make it. If you don't have 'it,' you won't, and if you don't know what 'it' is, then you don't have a chance. We're trying to figure out who has 'it' and who doesn't."
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