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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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As much asI would love to see tOSU win big. The only thing I can see is that there are going to be some bloody noses on both teams before this one is over. This will be one very physical game, just like last year (yeah, I am way out on a limb, I know :wink: )

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Hornet's Nests

Hey, the Buckeyes know all about hornet's nests.......aka going to NOrthwestern two years ago. From the git go, there was something up. Even Brent Mushmouth mentioned (early in first quarter) that 'something's up.....Northwestern's out for blood'. OK, we have ours too. Actually, any top tier program is going to face that EVERY game they play, as a win over OSU (or Texas, USC, etc) makes their entire season, keeps the coach's job, etc.

However.........Osu (and Texas) should expect that and prepare EVERY game. Knowing that and preparing for a regular season game is different than having a month to prepare for a Bowl. Yeah, Arkansas left the SWC for the SEC (Arkansas was the ONLY non-Texas team in the SWC), and Arkansas and Texas were bitter rivals. So there was no excuse for Texas coming out 'flat'. OSU on the other hand, used the 'Mildcats' as a punching bag for many years - practicing for Meatchicken rather than NOrthwestern that week.

Flat, maybe, but Texas should have whipped the Razorbacks anyway - just like OSU should have whipped Northwestern. The difference is a bowl versus regular season. Texas' second team athletes are better than Arkansas's first team, (and there are enough people on this thread to prove that statement), so flat or lethargic or not caring or under-performing, pick your poison.

If anyone wants to make statements like this, better pick out several games, rather than one or two to establish a 'trend'.

My personal feeling is that Texas underperforms compared to the lofty status of all Mack Brown recruiting classes (usually top 1-3). Maybe last year was the first time that enough of the kids stayed around to become juniors or seniors I don't know. Whereas Tressel doesn't recruit as highly rated athletes, but 'coaches them up' and they perform better. Doesn't matter, as long as they perform on the field. Consistently.

:gobucks3: :gobucks4: :banger: OSU 34 - Texas 14
 
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calibuck said:
My personal feeling is that Texas underperforms compared to the lofty status of all Mack Brown recruiting classes (usually top 1-3). Maybe last year was the first time that enough of the kids stayed around to become juniors or seniors I don't know. Whereas Tressel doesn't recruit as highly rated athletes, but 'coaches them up' and they perform better. Doesn't matter, as long as they perform on the field. Consistently.

:gobucks3: :gobucks4: :banger: OSU 34 - Texas 14
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I dont know that I entirely agree about the recruiting thing. Last year is a perfect example of what Im talking about. Texas class rated #3 OSU #13. On a first glance you can say "see texas recruits better athletes" But, I know that a lot talk is surfacing now about the regional bias by the national recruiting guys... for example. OSU is rated #13 dispite having 7 top 100 kids... Only USC landed more. That does not count Larry Grant because he is a JUCO.

That view of regional bias shows up as another prime example... Robert Rose. Last season before the AA game Rose was a 4* recruit was wasnt considered all that great on the national stage there were several other DE's considered better. Rose blows up in the AA game and he jumps to the #1 DE and 5 stars. The same thing is going on right now with Ben Martin.

2005 OSU was ranked 7th and Texas class was rated 13th.

2004 OSU rated 11th, Texas 10th.
 
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Aside from ranking of recruiting classes, there is this thought which crossed my mind these last couple of years.

Mack Brown clearly wants to tie-up as many of the top projected Texas HS stars as he can, very early in the year. This is wonderful for keeping the inter and intra-state walls up (I am guessing that is viewed as a good thing, just as we like to see JT keep top kids in Ohio). But, this early approach limits Brown's flexibility to catch a Senior HS year bloomer.

I guess it is a matter of strategy. Both JT's more considered and deliberate approach and that which Brown adopts seem to work for them.
 
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http://http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/07/21big12.html

LONGHORNS FOOTBALL
Media poll picks Oklahoma over Texas

Texas' quarterback situation reason for Longhorns' expected second-place finish

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Friday, July 21, 2006

Well, that didn't last long.
The national champion Longhorns, winners of 20 in a row, have suddenly been cast in the role of underdogs, thanks to a Big 12 Conference football media poll released Thursday.
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<!--endclickprintexclude-->Oklahoma was the overwhelming choice to win the Big 12 South, receiving 23 of 28 first-place votes from reporters who cover the conference. Texas, picked second in the division, was ranked first on the other five ballots.
Apparently it has something to do with Texas' muddled quarterback situation (which first-year quarterback will emerge as the starter?) and the strength of Oklahoma's offensive backfield (a Heisman candidate at tailback and a highly recruited Texan at quarterback).
The teams will settle it on the field Oct. 7 in Dallas, where the Longhorns snapped a five-game losing streak to the Sooners last year. It was one of four losses for Oklahoma.
Nebraska, also coming off an 8-4 season, is the media's choice to win the Big 12 North and reach the conference championship game, something the Cornhuskers haven't done since 1999.
If the prognosticators are right, this will be the eighth straight year that Texas or Oklahoma has represented the South in the title game.
The poll was released in advance of the Big 12 football media days, which begin Monday in Kansas City, site of this year's championship game.
http://www.statesman.com/sports/con...ghorns/07/jcl_aggies_vs_sooners_10Copy_3.html
 
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Brown got burned by a couple of kids playing the game, most notably Ryan Perrilloux(sp?). By most accounts he said that he wouldn't do it again. Mack believes in recruiting a solid class within the state early and then trying to round it out with a couple of national recruits. Pete Carrol is a great example of someone who goes the other way, playing the game till the end in hopes of landing some very big fish.


Oh and the idea that Mack lands a top 3 class every year is just flat out wrong. He always has a great class and has had a couple of top 3 but for the most part he wraps up recruiting so early that he trusts his evaluation and goes down the road. Another theory I have heard is that rivals and scouts inc are businesses too. Big name players sell subscriptions and the longer they have them around the better. So the theory says that kids that commit early tend to receive a lower ranking than those that run the course. Who knows, its just a theory
 
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Another theory I have heard is that rivals and scouts inc are businesses too. Big name players sell subscriptions and the longer they have them around the better. So the theory says that kids that commit early tend to receive a lower ranking than those that run the course. Who knows, its just a theory
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My personal feeling is that Texas underperforms compared to the lofty status of all Mack Brown recruiting classes (usually top 1-3).
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He is the winningest or second winningest coach between 2005 and any year you care to use as a reference. He is one of only six coaches in the post WWII era to win over 100 games in a 10 year period. What else is he supposed to be doing?

Regarding the point that he ties up players early. I see nothing wrong wth targeting players who were stars as sophs and juniors. We hear the argument about seniors who suddenly emerge from OU fans all the time, but I'll take the consistent high performer every time.

I will point out that while some of his classes are lower ranked, it is generally because it is a small class. His star average has been consistently 3.6+. Only 6 or 7 schools consistently recruit at that level, tOSU being one of them.
 
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He is the winningest or second winningest coach between 2005 and any year you care to use as a reference. He is one of only six coaches in the post WWII era to win over 100 games in a 10 year period. What else is he supposed to be doing?

Regarding the point that he ties up players early. I see nothing wrong wth targeting players who were stars as sophs and juniors. We hear the argument about seniors who suddenly emerge from OU fans all the time, but I'll take the consistent high performer every time.

I will point out that while some of his classes are lower ranked, it is generally because it is a small class. His star average has been consistently 3.6+. Only 6 or 7 schools consistently recruit at that level, tOSU being one of them.
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Its never been that Mack can't win games. Its that he couldn't win the big ones. A rep he blew away last year, beating us, Obliterating Okie, and Beating "ESPN's Best Team Of All Time" in the Rose Bowl.

He has been a 9 or 10 game winner for years. Just always seemed to lose the high profile games.
 
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