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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

I think that if the linebackers are rushing the QB, then there will be a lot of completions to UTs TEs and RBs.

In last year's game, Texas completed eight passes to RBs for 72 yards, with 36 of those coming on one pass. Your TEs caught a grand total of one pass for nine yards. So, altogether that's 81 yards on nine receptions to your RBs and TEs, with almost half of that coming on one play. And that was with the nation's most dynamic QB.

I have no zero concerns about Texas RBs and TEs running free in our secondary if we choose to blitz a LB or two.
 
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Yeah Taylor is facing some pretty serious charges I'd be in all honesty very surprised if he get's off the hook for this one. As for Antonio Smith, He's the only one I'm actualy a bit concerned about. I mean a 5'9" corner isn't your every day starters height. I'm not concerned about his tackling ability, and I'm sure he definatly deserves to start. With that being said don't be surprised if you see Andre Amos (6'0") or Donald Washington (6'1") opposite of Jenkins most of the time. Both Amos/Washington have been rumored to have some serious wheels too!! I think someone said amos ran in the 4.3's, and the same goes for Washington (of course they're prolly inflated numbers). GO BUCKS!
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Position: DB
Height: 5-10
Weight: 180
Born: 11/17/1981
College: Texas
NFL Experience: 3
 
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The two 'can't miss' CB picks in the '99 draft:

Champ Bailey 6'0"
Chris McAlister 6'1"

The other guys left over in what was (that year) being considered one of the worst drafts for CBs in NFL history:

Antoine Winfield 5'8"
Dre' Bly 5'9"
Daylon McCutcheon 5'8"
Fernando Bryant 5'10"

... oops!
 
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In last year's game, Texas completed eight passes to RBs for 72 yards, with 36 of those coming on one pass. Your TEs caught a grand total of one pass for nine yards. So, altogether that's 81 yards on nine receptions to your RBs and TEs, with almost half of that coming on one play. And that was with the nation's most dynamic QB.

I have no zero concerns about Texas RBs and TEs running free in our secondary if we choose to blitz a LB or two.

Remind me, how many of those starting LBs and DBs are back, oh yeah, zero. You probably should not base any future defensive performances off of last year, particularly when it comes to pass defense.
 
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Remind me, how many of those starting LBs and DBs are back, oh yeah, zero. You probably should not base any future defensive performances off of last year, particularly when it comes to pass defense.

The way you attack a blitz is primarily based on scheme, not personnel. Our scheme will be the same, because this is one of those rare years where Ohio State's Defensive Coordinator didn't get a head job somewhere (have fun with that statement if you want).

By all accounts; CFBnews, TSN, SI, et. al. Ohio State's back 7 is every bit as fast and athletic as last year's. Where they aren't up to last year's standard is experience. There are several guys on the squad that have started games in their careers though, so it's not like this is half a dozen freshmen and a redshirt.

The way to attack this defense (early, like in the 2nd game of the year) is to misdirect them and get them thinking. While our DC will be attempting to bait your young QB(s) into making mistakes; your OC will be attempting to fake our relatively inexperienced back 7 out of position.

It should be a very interesting chess match; especially with the juxtaposition of our experienced QB against your wicked defense. I can't wait.
 
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The way you attack a blitz is primarily based on scheme, not personnel. Our scheme will be the same, because this is one of those rare years where Ohio State's Defensive Coordinator didn't get a head job somewhere (have fun with that statement if you want).

By all accounts; CFBnews, TSN, SI, et. al. Ohio State's back 7 is every bit as fast and athletic as last year's. Where they aren't up to last year's standard is experience. There are several guys on the squad that have started games in their careers though, so it's not like this is half a dozen freshmen and a redshirt.

The way to attack this defense (early, like in the 2nd game of the year) is to misdirect them and get them thinking. While our DC will be attempting to bait your young QB(s) into making mistakes; your OC will be attempting to fake our relatively inexperienced back 7 out of position.

It should be a very interesting chess match; especially with the juxtaposition of our experienced QB against your wicked defense. I can't wait.

I can wait. When the game arrives, it will mean summer is over.
 
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Remind me, how many of those starting LBs and DBs are back, oh yeah, zero. You probably should not base any future defensive performances off of last year, particularly when it comes to pass defense.

First, we do have a starting LB and DB returning: James Laurinaitis and Malcolm Jenkins. And keep trying to convince yourself that just because we don't have Hawk, Carpenter, and Schlegel back at LB that we can't put up at least 90-95% of the same pressure from the LB positions. I'll bet real money right now that we'll have at least one sack and two QB hurries from our LB corps...as a minimum. Trust me, your QB(s) will get to know Marcus Freeman and James Laurinaitis (our OLBs) a lot more than they want to.
 
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My thoughts on the 2006 tOSU defense.

I cannot remember the last time that Jim Tressel put a sub par defense on the field. I suspect that it was at youngstown state or whatever school he use to coach at. At the same time, the defense that was on the field last year was all-time. I mean, they were REALLY damn good. If the defense that you put on the field is 90% as good as they were last year then osu will be the favorite to win it all....90% of that d would more than likely be enough to be the best defense in the country....I'm not saying that this years d wont be very good. Hell im not even saying they wont be great. I am just saying that i am very happy texas doesn't have to play against last years squad ever again
 
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My thoughts on the 2006 tOSU defense.

I cannot remember the last time that Jim Tressel put a sub par defense on the field. I suspect that it was at youngstown state or whatever school he use to coach at. At the same time, the defense that was on the field last year was all-time. I mean, they were REALLY damn good. If the defense that you put on the field is 90% as good as they were last year then osu will be the favorite to win it all....90% of that d would more than likely be enough to be the best defense in the country....I'm not saying that this years d wont be very good. Hell im not even saying they wont be great. I am just saying that i am very happy texas doesn't have to play against last years squad ever again

Our feelings regarding Vince Young precisely.
 
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footballfanatic said:
I can wait. When the game arrives, it will mean summer is over.
I guess I'm old enough now that football season is something that I can't wait for and don't want to end much more than summer. In fact I am now depressed that there is still almost 3 more months till football season. Besides that you're in Texas right? Its not like you all have to worry about blizzards or anything. This was my first OK winter and it wasn't bad. Texas has to be better right?

I think we can all agree there won't be much of a defensive talent dropoff if at all. As DaddyBigBucks pointed out the scheme won't change much. Mili was right too: Just like AJ and Bobby last year you better believe Freeman and Laurinaitis will be after the Texas QBs. And whatever dropoff they have in getting after the QB will be at least mitigated by the fact that Snead nor McCoy will be as strong or as quick or as smart as Young was last year at least in game 2 facing a "real" fast defense that will actually *hit* them. (I'm assuming that Texas won't be letting there defense hit these guys in practice like tOSU would in game. I'm pretty sure that's a safe assumption. I wouldn't make any claim that Texas defense isn't every bit as fast as tOSU, just that tOSU will be faster and much better than N Texas.)
 
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Points Against Ohio State Under Tressel:

2001: 244, 12-games, 20.3/ppga avg., 7-5
2002: 183, 14-games, 13.1/ppga avg., 14-0
2003: 229, 13-games, 17.6/ppga avg., 11-2
2004: 219, 12-games, 18.3/ppga avg., 8-4
2005: 183, 12-games, 15.3/ppga avg., 10-2

2001 Notes [DC Mark Dantonio]: Seven teams scored 20-points or more, OSU was 3-4 in those games. Gave up 34-points to eventual Big-10 champ Illinois in a come-from-ahead-to-lose embarassment of a 4th quarter.

2002 Notes [DC Mark Dantonio]: Only two teams broke 20-points, Texas Tech in garbage time with 2 TDs against the #3s, and Miami, Fla in an overtime game that properly should've ended in regulation with the score 17-14. Six opponents were held to single digits, 5 a single TD or less. The worst game for the defense was in a win where the Silver Bullets surrendered 19-points to Cincinnati.

2003 Notes [DC Mark Dantonio]: Six teams held to 2 TDs or less, including a shutout against Northwestern. Worst defensive game, statistically, was 38-points allowed against Philip Rivers' North Carolina State in an OT game. Worst defensive game, actual performance, was 35-points allowed against Michigan in a game where the Bucks couldn't stop the run.

2004 Notes [DC Mark Snyder]: Five teams held to 2 TDs or less, although six teams broke 20-points. The rebuilt defense was exploited early in the season by mobile QBs, undersized RBs, and bubble screens. Allowed 33-points in road game losses to Northwestern and Iowa.

2005 Notes [DC Jim Heacock]: Four teams held to single digits, seven teams held to 20-points or fewer. Worst defensive performance was against Minnesota where Brian Cupito picked on injured CB Ashton Youboty (hip-pointer) repeatedly en route to 31-points.

Statistically speaking, 2001 was the worst defensive team, and it probably bears out in watching the games. It should be noted though that both Mike Nugent and Josh Huston were freshmen in 2001 and couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. Every PAT was an adventure. Missed kicks took points off the board for the O and gave opponents starting field position at the 35 or better routinely.

EDIT: For the Texas guests, I cannot stress how bad OSU's special teams were in 2001 -- I'm not talking about sliding 45-yarders a foot to the right, I'm talking about doinking 15 yard chip shots off the crossbar. It certainly was not a portent of future special teams success under Jim Tressel, particularly that Nugent would ultimately be a Buckeye hero, All-American, Groza winner, and team captain. The coverages, returns, punts ... all of it stunk. Bad special teams play in 2001 directly resulted in 3 losses, that 7-5 record could have just as easily been 10-2. The UCLA, Wisconsin, and Penn St games all could have, or would have gone differently with a few kicks. The Outback bowl loss to South Carolina came when SC's kicker muscled a 42-yarder through a block and just over the crossbar. Dustin Fox insisted he got a piece of that one.

Dantonio's squads were solid all the way around in 2002 & 2003.

The 2004 defense easily was of a caliber to be under 200-points for the season, but the offense was comically bad and put the defense in a number of bad spots, usually following a string of 3-and-outs in games where the defense could play 35 - 40 minutes. This was Mark Snyder's first and only season as D Coordinator; the common complaint was that he (and his defenses) lacked the intensity and aggression that Dantonio's two previous squads had. The truth was that neither the O or D lines were very good when the season started.

I think the best comparision for the 2006 Bucks is 2004. A ton of talent that has significant real game experience over the prior seasons, they just don't happen to be starters. However, the 2006 D-Line will be far superior, particularly at DT, than the 2004 squad first was, and the D Coordinator is in his second year. Of course, this years' D won't be hamstrung by its offense either.

I don't see any reason why the 2006 Silver Bullets can't be a sub 200-point/16(ish) ppga avg team.
 
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