Game Thread Game One: Ohio State 38, Youngstown St. 6 (final)

[bkochmc]

Because somebody else plays cupcakes, so OSU should stoop too?

Playing against the Mountain West, CUSA, MAC, etc, should be as low as tOSU stoops to fill their OOC schedule.

I still fail to see how playing a good I-AA school like YSU or Appalachian State is "bad" when compared to many non-BCS schools and mid to lower tier BCS schools...

2006 Saragin Rankings (I-AA teams in italics)
53 Appalachian State (14-1)
55 Alabama (6-7)
62 Purdue (8-6)
71 Youngstown State (11-3)
75 NC State (3-9)
77 Ohio University (9-5)
80 Michigan State (4-8)
81 Troy (8-5)
83 New Mexico (6-7)
84 Indiana (5-7)
105 Akron (5-7)
112 Toledo (5-7)
119 Kent State (6-6)
208 Western Carolina (2-9)

EDIT: Added Western Carolina to the list since Florida played them last year... you know, that team that won the BCS Championship...

 

[Bucks_Dominate]

Florida won the national title last year despite playing frickin' Western Carolina, in November. Our playing YSU will have absolutely zero effect on where we're ranked at the end of the year.

The media is in awe of the SEC SOS. How many times have we heard media coverage about UF's tough road to the SEC title??? SEC teams can fill their OOC schudule with cupcakes, and it still wouldnt matter.

We have no conference championship, and we will not get the same treatment or respect. Big Ten teams playing cupcakes is a very bad thing.

 

[jwinslow]

Big Ten teams playing cupcakes is a very bad thing.

Then take up your fight with Washington. Their collapse (since being scheduled) is the problem with our schedule, not YSU. In 05, it didn't matter that Texas played La Lafayette, b/c they also took on elite OSU in their OOC schedule. OSU could have played YSU last year instead of BG, and no one would have batted an eye.

The same will hold true for OSU. Texas, USC, Miami, VT, Cal & OU should all provide premiere opponents. If one of them drops off the map (say VT), and the b10 has a down year as well... then that's just a tough break.

We have no conference championship, and we will not get the same treatment.

The SEC would still receive serious props without the CCG. More often than not, CCG's are a joke masquerading as a 'championship'. FSU lost 3 games in a row. Colorado was just awful, yet were given the chance to be whipped one more time by Texas/OU.

If people don't respect your conference, a CCG isn't going to change that. People respect the SEC's depth, and would still do so without a CCG. OTOH, the CCG doesn't keep people from doubting their conference. Heck, it might actually be a negative, after FSU's berth in 05.

 

[Bucks_Dominate]

2006 Saragin Rankings (I-AA teams in italics)
53 Appalachian State (14-1)
55 Alabama (6-7)

Those rankings are meaningless....... 'Bama would destroy App state.

They'd get picked apart.......

Even a bad Kansas team destroyed a 12-3 App State team 36-8 in 2005:! A horrible NCST team whipped a 12-1 App State in 2006. Playing these little schools is an embarrassment to OSU football....IMO.

Shouldnt the mighty Buckeyes be above stooping to play cupcakes?

 

[Saw31]

The media is in awe of the SEC SOS. How many times have we heard media coverage about UF's tough road to the SEC title??? SEC teams can fill their OOC schudule with cupcakes, and it still wouldnt matter.

We have no conference championship, and we will not get the same treatment or respect. Big Ten teams playing cupcakes is a very bad thing.

First of all, ours and scUM's losses last year in the Bowl Games will have far more effect on the perception of the Big Ten than will any game against YSU.

Second, YSU is better than half the MAC teams we already play and the friggin media people are smart enough to know that. They are sports fans too after all, besides it being their friggin job to know...

That's it. I'm done. Start a "Whine about the YSU game" thread and go have fun...

 

[bkochmc]

Shouldnt the mighty Buckeyes be above stooping to play cupcakes?

Who isn't a cupcake in your mind then? Just the BCS schools? Boise State? Kent State? Where is your line drawn?

 

[Bucks_Dominate]

Take a fucking chill pill Just relax.

I'm fine.....

Based on your anger, maybe you should take the chill pill.

 

[Bucks_Dominate]

Who isn't a cupcake in your mind then? Just the BCS schools? Boise State? Kent State? Where is your line drawn?

I already stated the max OSU should stoop to fill their OOC schedule is playing teams from the WAC, CUSA, MW, & MAC.

 

[bkochmc]

I already stated the max OSU should stoop to fill their OOC schedule is playing teams from the WAC, CUSA, MW, & MAC.

My bad, I missed that. So essentially, your only criteria is the I-A, I-AA indicator. If that is the case I could bring up Mili's post earlier showing YSU's record against MAC teams...

 

[Bucks_Dominate]

Then take up your fight with Washington.

Washington is an excellent OOC game. More than a few members of this forum are even worried that we might lose that game.

In 05, it didn't matter that Texas played La Lafayette, b/c they also took on elite OSU in their OOC schedule.

If you win all of your games, it doesnt matter. (Auburn getting stiffed was an unfortunate freak of nature) 2005 Texas probably isnt a very good example, because after all.... they did play a very good Ohio State team which was the OOC game of the season in all of college football in many peoples eyes. That alone might be enough to offset the remaining OOC patsies. Had Texas not played OSU, one loss would have hurt their title hopes deeply in 2005. That....my friend...is my point.

Big football programs have no business playing small school cupcakes. If other schools do it, should Ohio State stoop to their level?? Isn't our program above the rest? I think it is:osu:

 

[jwinslow]

Washington has won 8 games in 3 years. Even if OSU has some trouble beating them, nobody from the media or fans will excuse that because we faced an excellent opponent.

That alone might be enough to offset the remaining OOC patsies.

That's precisely my point. Every other year, OSU has a team to offset the 3 cupcakes.

Big football programs have no business playing small school cupcakes. If other schools do it, should Ohio State stoop to their level?? Isn't our program above the rest? I think it is

How do you classify Akron? Bowling Green? Ohio? Kent State? Filling your OOC schedule with nothing but solid-to-great teams is just not very realistic.

Personally, I'd like to keep the 'No DI-AA' streak alive just for the sake of the streak. But in reality, there is not much difference between then and many of the MAC teams OSU plays every year.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

We aren't going to the NC this year anyways.....so you might as well take up another cause.

I get your point....playing YSU makes our schedule look weak (well it is weak) just because they have the 1-AA label. You'd rather we play Toledo or NMSU. But what does that get us?

Pretend SoS is a number....let's say everybody starts out with a perfect 10. Then some computer determines how difficult an opponent is, and either adds or subtracts a number from that 10. Since YSU is 1-AA, let's say that computer decides to take away 2 points.

OK....what would that computer take away for playing Akron? Rice? Hell, even Indiana. What exactly is the difference?

 

[Bucks_Dominate]

That's precisely my point. Every other year, OSU has a team to offset the 3 cupcakes. How do you classify Akron? Bowling Green? Ohio? Kent State?

Filling your OOC schedule with nothing but solid-to-great teams is just not very realistic.

I classify them as acceptable cupcakes. Stooping into 1-AA-land for opponents is unacceptable in my eyes. I agree with you that no team should stock it's OOC schedule with powerhouse programs, but I guess I have higher standards for how low OSU should go when looking for tune-up games. Destroying a too easy of an opponent wont do the team any good in their development.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Those rankings are meaningless....... 'Bama would destroy App state.

Butt_Dontknowshit, do you realize that those ratings that you just called meaningless are some of the very factors that determine your hallowed SOS?

That dinging sound you now hear is not a bell...

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I classify them as acceptable cupcakes. Stooping into 1-AA-land for opponents is unacceptable in my eyes. I agree with you that no team should stock it's OOC schedule with powerhouse programs, but I guess I have higher standards for how low OSU should go when looking for tune-up games. Destroying a too easy of an opponent wont do the team any good in their development.

What development will we get out of destroying Kent St.....an acceptable "stoop"?