alex rodriguez puts up great numbers, but is not clutch (Ortiz, Robert Horry, Vince Young etc). Clutch refers to late in the game when the pressure is on. Not sure why that is lost on you.
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There are some similarities between the Miami game last year, we both play in the MAC, and we both have good offenses. However I think NIU will be twice the team Miami was last year.
Because Wolfe is still playing right now. You guys are one of the most historic college football universities in the world, however your greats won't be on the field on September 2nd; Garrett Wolfe will be.
Then my post wasn't direct toward you, it was directed toward 19 who said Garrett Wolfe wasn't clutch because of 3 runs in a 23 point game. Of course you don't know if Wolfe is clutch, you've never sene him play more then once or twice, that is not a knock on you, but it is a fact. For somebody to call him not clutch, especially why he called him not clutch, is a joke.I never said he wasn't clutch. I don't know if he is or not. But having a 75 yard run in the 2nd quarter doesn't scream clutch to me. And "your" 5 biggest games are against who? MAC teams?
I think you stated your whole argument about Wolfe is that you don't think he's respected on these boards. So show me what he has done against a team with a good defense. Respect isn't earned just by having stats against MAC teams.
Stats don't even show the whole story. Am I correct in assuming that NIU is a running team? If so, you don't think that skews any comparisons made against Pittman? I mean, I understand that if Pittman was that much better than the rest of the players on our team then we would be a running team also, but that doesn't really say anything about Wolfe vs. Pittman.
Nicely done twisitng words around.Right there you said our greats won't be on the field. Clear as day.
Nobody is doubting that Wolfe plays well no matter who he is playing. They are doubting "who he is playing".G-FORCE said:Then my post wasn't direct toward you, it was directed toward 19 who said Garrett Wolfe wasn't clutch because of 3 runs in a 23 point game. Of course you don't know if Wolfe is clutch, you've never sene him play more then once or twice, that is not a knock on you, but it is a fact. For somebody to call him not clutch, especially why he called him not clutch, is a joke.
And without a doubt Wolfe gets more chances the Pittman does, that is why I posted YPC. Pittman is a really good back without a doubt, all I was trying to do was point out what they did against common opponents to show that Wolfe balls no matter who he is playing.
Nicely done twisitng words around.
The post I was responidng to was me dismissing Ohio State's history, but using Wolfe's as an argument. I then said your "greats" i.e. A.J. Hawk, guys from the past, won't be on the field but Wolfe will.
We already had the you guys will have new greats on the field debate, and I said that is why it is an advantage to NIU because it will be many of their first start's.
I thought we had already been there before too. For most of those players it won't be their first start.G-FORCE said:Nicely done twisitng words around.
The post I was responidng to was me dismissing Ohio State's history, but using Wolfe's as an argument. I then said your "greats" i.e. A.J. Hawk, guys from the past, won't be on the field but Wolfe will.
We already had the you guys will have new greats on the field debate, and I said that is why it is an advantage to NIU because it will be many of their first start's.
Your "facts"Well, G-F, what about the stats I put on the table, a few posts ago? Any comment on that? It's fine and well to set out an opinion, but the facts suggest that Pittman is the better back.
I went back and looked at rushing against TSUN, by the way. Walker got them for 104/26/4.0, Calhoun 155/35/4.4, Michigan State combined for 173/29/6.0 and Maroney went for 129/36 and Russell for 128/18/7.1. So, Wolfe did well against them, but not really all that well, for a team with a run defense that Bo Schembechler said disgusted him after the first three games.
Your "facts"
Sorry I question your "facts" after you said Garrett Wolfe is not clutch. I am pretty sure we already covered the common opponent thing. Wolfe averaged more yards per carry against them then Pittman did didn't he? You can't just dismiss the Michigan game because it is a "rivalry". By your logic Toledo should have shut down Wolfe then because it is a "rivalry".
If Pittman is so "clutch" why didn't he show up in the Michigan game?