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Former DC Kerry Coombs (Cincy Bearcats Interim Head Coach)

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TampaBuckeyes said:
My worry is that we won’t face an offense that tests this D like Oregon did until the bowl season. Then we have another rude awaking around new year.
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I mean that should be the case but Maryland, Indiana, Purdue, Corn and Ped scare me. Rutgers, Sparty, Tulsa and even scum can more than challenge this defense too.

There shouldn't be a true test until January but we'll be in a ton of dog fights IMO throughout this season.
 
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bukIpower said:
I mean that should be the case but Maryland, Indiana, Purdue, Corn and Ped scare me. Rutgers, Sparty, Tulsa and even scum can more than challenge this defense too.

There shouldn't be a true test until January but we'll be in a ton of dog fights IMO throughout this season.
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And maybe that’s good… or as good as can be, under the circumstances. At least maybe then we’ll be able to see and fight through it. If we’re able to just out-talent (questionable, at this point, though that may be) them, we will get shelled again at season’s end.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
My worry is that we won’t face an offense that tests this D like Oregon did until the bowl season. Then we have another rude awaking around new year.
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I wouldn't worry too much then. Every team we play in the B1G can test this defense. You won't have to wait for any rude awakenings in the post season.

Minny and Oregon are just average P5 offenses. Nothing special about them at all. There is no magic switch flipping coming imo. The DL talent is low, the back 7 experience is lower and the coaching is lower than low.

Every week is going to be a race to 40 and pray for some mistakes from the opponent's offense.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I wouldn't worry too much then. Every team we play in the B1G can test this defense. You won't have to wait for any rude awakenings in the post season.

Minny and Oregon are just average P5 offenses. Nothing special about them at all. There is no magic switch flipping coming imo. The DL talent is low, the back 7 experience is lower and the coaching is lower than low.

Every week is going to be a race to 40 and pray for some mistakes from the opponent's offense.
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I agree with you generally, but we should remember that we're unlikely to encounter another offensive coordinator as talented as Moorhead for the remainder of the regular season.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I wouldn't worry too much then. Every team we play in the B1G can test this defense. You won't have to wait for any rude awakenings in the post season.

Minny and Oregon are just average P5 offenses. Nothing special about them at all. There is no magic switch flipping coming imo. The DL talent is low, the back 7 experience is lower and the coaching is lower than low.

Every week is going to be a race to 40 and pray for some mistakes from the opponent's offense.
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No switch-flipping, but I do think the CBs with be a strength sooner than later, and if they quit rotating LBs and settle on 2-3, they might be decent. Biggest thing is FS and DT.

Not ready to take the black pill yet, even though it looks really bad. I remember Indiana getting 250 rushing yards against OSU in 2014 and a pathetic TTUN offense giving them more than they wanted as well.

Things can change quickly if the lights come on and young guys figure it out.
 
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MaxBuck said:
I agree with you generally, but we should remember that we're unlikely to encounter another offensive coordinator as talented as Moorhead for the remainder of the regular season.
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They gave up over 200 yards rushing to Minny and Ibrahim only played 3 quarters. They just gave up over 260 to some other dude no one has ever heard of. Neither team had anything approaching a down field passing attack that should have kept us from focusing on the run.

It won't take another Joe Moorhead. Just a team with a balanced offense and the ability to watch film.
 
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1926Buckeyes said:
No switch-flipping, but I do think the CBs with be a strength sooner than later, and if they quit rotating LBs and settle on 2-3, they might be decent. Biggest thing is FS and DT.

Not ready to take the black pill yet, even though it looks really bad. I remember Indiana getting 250 rushing yards against OSU in 2014 and a pathetic TTUN offense giving them more than they wanted as well.

Things can change quickly if the lights come on and young guys figure it out.
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Indiana at least had a top 10 offense with a NFL back with Kevin Wilson running the show that year. I’d be shocked Oregon replicated that kind of offensive performance more than twice the rest of the year.
 
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One of those TIFWIW stories…..but had a chance to talk with a former Georgia FB who played under Mark Richt and then Kirby Smart.

He was careful to say he didn’t know exact rule at time, but that when Kirby Smart came into UGA, he specifically talked about WR crack-back blocks being really dangerous plays bc of high likelihood of targeting.

I don’t know exact year they banned the type of block Evan Spencer laid out on Alabama, but that block is illegal now.

My “friend” was saying Georgia took out all schemes where a WR would “crash down” on a LB, whereas it was pretty typical under Richt.

He said it was basically an adjustment due to new rules and harsher penalties for those types of blocks. The coaching staff emphasized how you could not blow up a defenseless defender, so they basically removed schemes where it’d put their offensive players in a position to get ejected.

I say all of this because….

Once he watched the OSU/Oregon game….he texted me he didn’t think OSU had any experience with WR’s crashing down as a blocker. He said Oregon did excellent job of treating the block as more of a “basketball pick” than a block. He said they used a very common concept from 10 years ago that has largely been lost bc teams have taken that concept out. But Oregon really executed well where they didn’t commit penalties but executed the play without having to lay wood. Just getting the bodies in the wash made it effective.

No excuse for our defense….but I do wonder how unprepared they were for a play that has basically been dead for multiple years. I think we got caught with our pants down….it was a play our guys have never seen bc it was basically legislated out. But Oregon found a way to execute it without committing penalties. And good on them for figuring it out…..
 
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Systems_id said:
Indiana at least had a top 10 offense with a NFL back with Kevin Wilson running the show that year. I’d be shocked Oregon replicated that kind of offensive performance more than twice the rest of the year.
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I mean it was a 3-8 Indiana team with someone named Zander Diamont at QB. Diamont was their backup. Don't care if Barry Sanders was their RB, it was a pathetic performance.

All I'm saying is that defense was far from good most of 2014. Only had 4 regular season games in which they held teams below 20 points. One was a comical Kent State team and another was Rutgers. Still time for guys to step up and things come together to be an ok defense.
 
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billmac91 said:
One of those TIFWIW stories…..but had a chance to talk with a former Georgia FB who played under Mark Richt and then Kirby Smart.

He was careful to say he didn’t know exact rule at time, but that when Kirby Smart came into UGA, he specifically talked about WR crack-back blocks being really dangerous plays bc of high likelihood of targeting.

I don’t know exact year they banned the type of block Evan Spencer laid out on Alabama, but that block is illegal now.

My “friend” was saying Georgia took out all schemes where a WR would “crash down” on a LB, whereas it was pretty typical under Richt.

He said it was basically an adjustment due to new rules and harsher penalties for those types of blocks. The coaching staff emphasized how you could not blow up a defenseless defender, so they basically removed schemes where it’d put their offensive players in a position to get ejected.

I say all of this because….

Once he watched the OSU/Oregon game….he texted me he didn’t think OSU had any experience with WR’s crashing down as a blocker. He said Oregon did excellent job of treating the block as more of a “basketball pick” than a block. He said they used a very common concept from 10 years ago that has largely been lost bc teams have taken that concept out. But Oregon really executed well where they didn’t commit penalties but executed the play without having to lay wood. Just getting the bodies in the wash made it effective.

No excuse for our defense….but I do wonder how unprepared they were for a play that has basically been dead for multiple years. I think we got caught with our pants down….it was a play our guys have never seen bc it was basically legislated out. But Oregon found a way to execute it without committing penalties. And good on them for figuring it out…..
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It'll be interesting to see if other college teams try this out in coming weeks, and moreso how other defenses are affected.
 
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