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Wouldn't it be neat if they lost one of those games? I think that would spell real crap for Mr Bowden.
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Muck
Enjoy Every Sandwich
It'll be interesting to see if the media has anything to say about Saint Bowden and this ploy.
Certain schools get blasted for "weak schedules", will the same happen to FSU after they implicitly admit they are playing a pathetically weak schedule for no other reason than perceived guaranteed wins.
Certain schools get blasted for "weak schedules", will the same happen to FSU after they implicitly admit they are playing a pathetically weak schedule for no other reason than perceived guaranteed wins.
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HailToMichigan
Maize and Blue Wahoo
Two DI-AA teams???
I hate when I-A schools play even one I-AA game. (I'd like it pointed out for the record that I felt this way long, long before you know what.)
As if I needed another reason to hate FSU - scheduling two weak-ass I-AA teams - that really takes the cake when it comes to scheduling shenanigans. I have never heard of a school playing two I-AA teams in one year, except for provisional I-A teams like Western Ky. Though I'm sure some SEC school has done it at some point, I just can't remember it. Florida State is in the wrong conference. I suggest the ACC swap them for charter ACC member South Carolina.
I hate when I-A schools play even one I-AA game. (I'd like it pointed out for the record that I felt this way long, long before you know what.)
As if I needed another reason to hate FSU - scheduling two weak-ass I-AA teams - that really takes the cake when it comes to scheduling shenanigans. I have never heard of a school playing two I-AA teams in one year, except for provisional I-A teams like Western Ky. Though I'm sure some SEC school has done it at some point, I just can't remember it. Florida State is in the wrong conference. I suggest the ACC swap them for charter ACC member South Carolina.
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methomps
an imbecility, a stupidity without name
It will be interesting to see how many scholarships FSU loses over this. SC lost one for every football player (two) involved in a similar thing a couple years back. FSU had at least two dozen football players involved, and 60 total student-athletes. Given how widespread this was, I have to think the NCAA will come down much harder. But they're going to have to get creative in how they structure the penalty, because hitting FSU for 20+ schollies all at once is unworkable and spreading it out too much is arguably too light.
Here are some more details:
FSU details its sanctions for academic scandal
Here are some more details:
FSU details its sanctions for academic scandal
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
Another aspect that may be interesting, is that the Brenda Monk person who is the FSU Employee "bad guy" who let this scandal go on was not given a performance evaluation 2001 until this thing blew up.
The athletes were told to go to these people, and yet nobody monitored what happened to them after they did. Nobody monitored Ms. Monk, yet we are to believe that she was a fine employee from 2001 until she suddenly went rogue on them in 2006/7??
Also, the initial FSU investigation threw some female swim team members under the bus, and kicked them out of FSU. One of them hired a lawyer, as she was pissed that she told the truth, and was punished severely, while she knew (and she knew that FSU knew) that many FSU football players were guilty and off Scot free. She sued, or threatened to, and then the whole deal was re-reviewed and the can or worms cam out. Problem?
Also, Billmac needs to show up and edit this, as It may be the homer version that I remember from reading GC, which has a bias.
Finally, FSU ignored some reports about Monk that she was improperly typing some reports for athletes. That means, nobody looked in on it after reports of impropriety, and this allowed her to continue to run the dirty on-line music history course. I think FSU is using wishful thinking.
The athletes were told to go to these people, and yet nobody monitored what happened to them after they did. Nobody monitored Ms. Monk, yet we are to believe that she was a fine employee from 2001 until she suddenly went rogue on them in 2006/7??
Also, the initial FSU investigation threw some female swim team members under the bus, and kicked them out of FSU. One of them hired a lawyer, as she was pissed that she told the truth, and was punished severely, while she knew (and she knew that FSU knew) that many FSU football players were guilty and off Scot free. She sued, or threatened to, and then the whole deal was re-reviewed and the can or worms cam out. Problem?
Also, Billmac needs to show up and edit this, as It may be the homer version that I remember from reading GC, which has a bias.
Finally, FSU ignored some reports about Monk that she was improperly typing some reports for athletes. That means, nobody looked in on it after reports of impropriety, and this allowed her to continue to run the dirty on-line music history course. I think FSU is using wishful thinking.
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HailToMichigan
Maize and Blue Wahoo
It seems to me that it shouldn't take that much creativity. It shouldn't be all that unworkable - where the unworkability comes in is that you don't want to take scholarships away from players who already have them and didn't do anything wrong. So simply let them graduate their class of seniors - if it's 15 or however many, then that many scholarships are unavailable in next year's recruiting class. Then do the same the following year until they've graduated enough seniors to cover the scholarship losses. A couple years of recruiting classes of just 8-10 players ought to do the trick.methomps;1092236; said:
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HailToMichigan
Maize and Blue Wahoo
Well, I presume if you take away from the 85, you also partially lose the ability to fill up a class with 25. Say they have a full 85 on scholarship now and lose 15 to graduation, they now have 70 total. That's a loss of 15, so if they want to recruit they have to kick someone else off scholarship. Lose another 15 the next year, takes them to 55 then that can get them down to the number of say 25 lost scholarships and they can recruit 5 new ones to get them to 60, and they can park it there for another year as punishment then get their scholarships back.methomps;1092406; said:
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