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Fixed it for you.super_mario;860388; said:I think Goebel is definetly yours now.
ND just received a verbal committment from Omar Hunter of Georgia, and Michigan got a verbal from in-stater Mike Martin the same day Hunter pledged to ND.
UM is pretty solid at DT with a slew of players who really have yet to even really play.
Goebel commits to OSU, and very soon IMO. Probably within 2-3 months tops IMO.
super_mario;860388; said:I think Goebel is definetly yours now.
ND just received a verbal committment from Omar Hunter of Georgia, and Michigan got a verbal from in-stater Mike Martin the same day Hunter pledged to ND.
UM is pretty solid at DT with a slew of players who really have yet to even really play. Jim McKinney (who had injuries and illness slow him), Marques Slocum (who finally was admitted into school and will begin this fall as a freshman), Adam Patterson (Soph), Jason Kates (RS Frosh), John Ferrara (RS Frosh), and Renaldo Sagesse (true frosh) who will probably redshirt. Not to mention projected JR starters Terrance Taylor and Will Johnson, who will be seniors and locks as starters in 2008. McKinney, Slocum, and Patterson all have big-time talent and were very highly thought of by the services. Kates has alot of potential but there are alot of concerns about his work-ethic and committment to keeping his weight down. Ferrara will probably never be anything other than quality depth. Sagesse is very raw, but very athletic. I've heard very good things about him and his potential. Mike Martin is pretty much a Terrance Taylor clone, they are eerily similar in size (both 6'1, 300ish), hs athletics background (both heavyweight wrestling champs, shot-put champs, and heavy-weight power-lifters) ability, and playing style.
Goebel commits to OSU, and very soon IMO. Probably within 2-3 months tops IMO.
super_mario;860388; said:UM is pretty solid at DT with a slew of players who really have yet to even really play. Jim McKinney (who had injuries and illness slow him), Marques Slocum (who finally was admitted into school and will begin this fall as a freshman), Adam Patterson (Soph), Jason Kates (RS Frosh), John Ferrara (RS Frosh), and Renaldo Sagesse (true frosh) who will probably redshirt. Not to mention projected JR starters Terrance Taylor and Will Johnson, who will be seniors and locks as starters in 2008. McKinney, Slocum, and Patterson all have big-time talent and were very highly thought of by the services. Kates has alot of potential but there are alot of concerns about his work-ethic and committment to keeping his weight down. Ferrara will probably never be anything other than quality depth. Sagesse is very raw, but very athletic. I've heard very good things about him and his potential. Mike Martin is pretty much a Terrance Taylor clone, they are eerily similar in size (both 6'1, 300ish), hs athletics background (both heavyweight wrestling champs, shot-put champs, and heavy-weight power-lifters) ability, and playing style.
IrishCalves;860456; said:The Irish are in a position that, if they don't feel the caliber of a DL recruit is "instant impact", they could probably try to devote that scholarship elsewhere, and take aim at a 4th and 5th LB (perhaps Etienne Sabino and Steve Filer, but thats getting off topic). They've locked up some talented guys, and can afford to be a little more choosy than when we only had two commits at DL, and offered Goebel.
With plenty of tape on Kapron Lewis-Moore playing the DE in a 3-4 alignment, and Ethan Johnson being offered months earlier than Goebel, I have to believe those are the two the Irish will make a priority of, with a very small chance they start recruiting Marcus Forston as a DE.
schwab;860465; said:Don't care....
...and, yep, don't care.
super_mario;860388; said:I think Goebel is definetly yours now.
ND just received a verbal committment from Omar Hunter of Georgia, and Michigan got a verbal from in-stater Mike Martin the same day Hunter pledged to ND.
UM is pretty solid at DT with a slew of players who really have yet to even really play. Jim McKinney (who had injuries and illness slow him), Marques Slocum (who finally was admitted into school and will begin this fall as a freshman), Adam Patterson (Soph), Jason Kates (RS Frosh), John Ferrara (RS Frosh), and Renaldo Sagesse (true frosh) who will probably redshirt. Not to mention projected JR starters Terrance Taylor and Will Johnson, who will be seniors and locks as starters in 2008. McKinney, Slocum, and Patterson all have big-time talent and were very highly thought of by the services. Kates has alot of potential but there are alot of concerns about his work-ethic and committment to keeping his weight down. Ferrara will probably never be anything other than quality depth. Sagesse is very raw, but very athletic. I've heard very good things about him and his potential. Mike Martin is pretty much a Terrance Taylor clone, they are eerily similar in size (both 6'1, 300ish), hs athletics background (both heavyweight wrestling champs, shot-put champs, and heavy-weight power-lifters) ability, and playing style.
Goebel commits to OSU, and very soon IMO. Probably within 2-3 months tops IMO.
IrishCalves;860456; said:The more I've seen and read, the more I think the field is starting to pull out of the race for Goebel - leaving just the Buckeyes. The Mike Martin verbal to Michigan doesn't make Goebel a "must get" for them any longer. And if memory serves, they didn't have as dire a need there as OSU to begin with.
I'm pretty sure an Irish breakdown may bore some of you, but I don't want this to sound like I'm simply pulling half brained opinions out of my a**.
The Irish are in a position that, if they don't feel the caliber of a DL recruit is "instant impact", they could probably try to devote that scholarship elsewhere, and take aim at a 4th and 5th LB (perhaps Etienne Sabino and Steve Filer, but thats getting off topic). They've locked up some talented guys, and can afford to be a little more choosy than when we only had two commits at DL, and offered Goebel.
With plenty of tape on Kapron Lewis-Moore playing the DE in a 3-4 alignment, and Ethan Johnson being offered months earlier than Goebel, I have to believe those are the two the Irish will make a priority of, with a very small chance they start recruiting Marcus Forston as a DE.
To sum it up, I'm starting to see Goebel as the odd man out. Not a knock against the guy - he's a very good prospect who's wrestling background shows with regularity. He has good football IQ, and I could easily see him having success wherever he lands. Whoever gets him will be pleased with the player they see lining up on Saturdays.
now you see how he did it? That is a good post.XPUNISHR;860490; said:It looks to me like a "perfect match"....the Buckeyes wanted Goebel all along & vice versa. A few years from now when reflecting on the 2008 recruiting class I am quite sure the Buckeyes & Goebel will all be "happy campers" settling for NOTHING LESS THAN a National Championship (or two!!)
XPUNISHR;860490; said:It looks to me like a "perfect match"....the Buckeyes wanted Goebel all along & vice versa. A few years from now when reflecting on the 2008 recruiting class I am quite sure the Buckeyes & Goebel will all be "happy campers" settling for NOTHING LESS THAN a National Championship (or two!!)
super_mario;860388; said:I think Goebel is definetly yours now.
ND just received a verbal committment from Omar Hunter of Georgia, and Michigan got a verbal from in-stater Mike Martin the same day Hunter pledged to ND.
UM is pretty solid at DT with a slew of players who really have yet to even really play. Jim McKinney (who had injuries and illness slow him), Marques Slocum (who finally was admitted into school and will begin this fall as a freshman), Adam Patterson (Soph), Jason Kates (RS Frosh), John Ferrara (RS Frosh), and Renaldo Sagesse (true frosh) who will probably redshirt. Not to mention projected JR starters Terrance Taylor and Will Johnson, who will be seniors and locks as starters in 2008. McKinney, Slocum, and Patterson all have big-time talent and were very highly thought of by the services. Kates has alot of potential but there are alot of concerns about his work-ethic and committment to keeping his weight down. Ferrara will probably never be anything other than quality depth. Sagesse is very raw, but very athletic. I've heard very good things about him and his potential. Mike Martin is pretty much a Terrance Taylor clone, they are eerily similar in size (both 6'1, 300ish), hs athletics background (both heavyweight wrestling champs, shot-put champs, and heavy-weight power-lifters) ability, and playing style.
Goebel commits to OSU, and very soon IMO. Probably within 2-3 months tops IMO.