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No irony there.
Homosexuals are bad because they give off weird vibes? That is the opposite of logic and it is the opposite of a "thinking man's opinion". It is most certainly offensive. It is an excuse for treating people that are different as second-class citizens. The fact that you are dressing this up as some form of respectful, fact-based discussion disgusts me.
Oh, and just because somebody doesn't share your sense of right and wrong does not mean that they lack one.
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OH10
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The original sentiment arises from a post a couple of pages back lamenting the idea that white pride has become a symbol of racism. Nothing more, nothing less. I never tried to make it anything more - just giving context to the whole 'white pride,' 'black pride,' 'gay pride' dynamic. It's not particularly salient to the thread.
EDIT: Not sure economic inequality and economic growth are necessarily all that different. But that's for another thread.
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OH10
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Not sure we are having a disagreement here. You did read the post to which I originally responded? It wasn't directed at you.
I admit that I've never understood 'white pride' - whether used in the same context as the Klan or not. I suppose it's all relatively arbitrary. I could have been born in Michigan and been a fan of TSUN instead of being a proud Ohio State fan/alum. I could have been born in England and be proud of the Beatles and the Who. I could have been born to a fundamentalist Islamic family and been proud to be a Muslim. Or born in the 1950s and be proud to be a crotchety old white guy... (kidding, of course)
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matcar
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Agreed. Pretty sad commentary or ignorance in some of these posts.No irony there.
Homosexuals are bad because they give off weird vibes? That is the opposite of logic and it is the opposite of a "thinking man's opinion". It is most certainly offensive. It is an excuse for treating people that are different as second-class citizens. The fact that you are dressing this up as some form of respectful, fact-based discussion disgusts me.
Oh, and just because somebody doesn't share your sense of right and wrong does not mean that they lack one.
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DubCoffman62
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I'll admit that I've never understood any "collective pride", pride in something that you have no control over like how you were born. That would be as stupid as people with the same name getting together and having a (insert name here) pride parade, pride in being given a certain birth name. Having a parade to honor your skin color or sexual preference is kind of lame if you ask me
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The point I was making was more the sentiment that black people doing better = white people doing worse, or possibly some white people enjoying some percieved superiority, as the "sentiement" was that white people will be fine, as if most actually care. My guess is that the only ones that will feel like "its all slipping away" are ones who actually think they stand to lose...
If you don't think inequality and growth are different, maybe the social marxist rant wasn't far off.
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Precisely why there has been the unfortunate rise in/resurrection of radical "white pride" groups (note the emphasis on "radical").
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I dont even want to say this because I REALLY dont want to be lumped in with certain other posters here. However, couldnt one argue that many in the "check your privilege" and white guilt crowd do insinuate that white males should be embarrassed or ashamed of being born the way they are?
EDIT:damnit.... mili ninja'd me... damnit.. i knew i didnt want to post this
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DubCoffman62
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I think you may be on to something here. I can tell you, as someone who dines out for most of my meals and have gotten to know young people working in the service industry, there's lots of young white kids who are too young to remember back when say coming out as gay could hurt your career or maybe it was more acceptable and mainstream to make jokes about PoC who feel kind of hurt for feeling they're bad people for simply being white. There is some resentment by some while others have swallowed the pill and do believe that maybe they are in fact guilty by association for past transgressions against certain victim groups even though it was before they were born and they themselves have never participated in any of these acts and feel guilty for this perceived privilege.
I will admit that sometimes I do let some things slip that could be taken the wrong way. This weekend while I was in San Diego I took my dark skinned latina girlfriend to a very nice Italian restaurant in the lily white South Park neighborhood, probably not a PoC besides her for a good square mile or two. It was pretty full so we agreed to be served at the bar which was along side the restaurant outside, kind of out of view. Our service was a bit spotty but this was due to our location and the fact that one server was waiting on the whole patio. I joked to my girl that if she had been a few shades lighter that we might have gotten a better table. She laughed but I did kind of feel bad for saying it.
I'm not sure how i feel about a white pride parade and I know that I wouldn't participate in it. I have to say though that I don't think this forced diversity and tolerance thing is working out too well.
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Maybe there is something to that; except that I've never viewed it as white guilt. I've always viewed as white luck. Appreciate the fact that you were born white in America. That's the lottery. But also realize that great fortunate does come with some obligation to give back. (again, venturing down a digression)
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Eh, our economy grew quite well during the time periods (i.e. 1930s on...) in which we had high taxes, an influx of minimum wage, workplace safety laws, and unions. Maybe it had something to do with a strong middle class having money to spend on consumer products marketed by the upper class; thus, benefitting everybody. Or it could all just be a coincidence.
Who knows? I ain't hurting so I'm just grateful for the gifts that have been given to me via decades of what I perceive (in hindsight) to be... progress.
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