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Do You Believe People are Basically Evil?

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OCBucksFan;1104358; said:
As far as the rest of the world is concerned it would be dropping the bomb in world war 2. I have seen many discussions with people from foreign countries and the end result frequently becomes "yeah, well at least we didn't drop the bomb on Japan"
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Do you remind them, "Your butt-wipe of a technotard country couldn't have dropped it, as we were the only one who had it, having invented it! You techno losers could only kill Japanese in large numbers by hiring ninjas to plug up their breath holes with mud at night while they slept."
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;1104603; said:
It's simply a matter of perspective. I just wish we could get along.
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martinss01;1104631; said:
it looks to me like we are having a simple miscommunication. you are looking at this from a legality and accountability perspective. im looking at this purely from a psychological one.

are people evil? no. can people commit evil acts? absolutely. should people who commit evil acts be held responsible for their actions? without question.

however, committing an evil act does not make one evil. hitler didn't have a red tail, horns and a pitch fork. he was a normal man. perhaps a little more disturbed than most. but a man none the less. this isn't meant to excuse his actions in anyway, but rather to serve as warning to the rest of us.
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martinss01;1104631; said:
it looks to me like we are having a simple miscommunication. you are looking at this from a legality and accountability perspective. im looking at this purely from a psychological one.

are people evil? no. can people commit evil acts? absolutely. should people who commit evil acts be held responsible for their actions? without question.

however, committing an evil act does not make one evil. hitler didn't have a red tail, horns and a pitch fork. he was a normal man. perhaps a little more disturbed than most. but a man none the less. this isn't meant to excuse his actions in anyway, but rather to serve as warning to the rest of us.
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We may kind of be agreeing, but I would still posit that people can be, and are, evil. I agree that Hitler was a man, but I also say he was an evil man. However misguided he was, or why he was what he was, I'm sure there are all kinds of arguments...but I think he was, in fact, evil.

I do not think humanity as a whole is evil...but I definitely think than humans can be evil.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1104692; said:
We may kind of be agreeing, but I would still posit that people can be, and are, evil. I agree that Hitler was a man, but I also say he was an evil man. However misguided he was, or why he was what he was, I'm sure there are all kinds of arguments...but I think he was, in fact, evil.

I do not think humanity as a whole is evil...but I definitely think than humans can be evil.
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Sat through a trial where the woman threw her two kids off of a bridge into a river in the winter. She was one of the most non-evil persons I ever saw. Mentally ill? She was, unquestionably. But she only wanted to send her two kids to the highest level of heaven, which as a Mormon she knew would happen if they died before a certain age. She has asked the Church to take her kids, as she could not cope with her problems. They said to have more faith and try harder instead. So an evil act can be done with no evil intent. Mens rea, or "guilty mind" was present, as she knew that it was a crime, but she thought she was doing a "greater good" thing because she loved them dearly, and she thought she was evil and would contaminate them if they stayed with her. She tried to give them away, but was told "no".

Makes you wonder about the nature of evil. Of course, to the kids, they are just as dead.
 
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Most individuals that are evil are into the occult, sometimes not. Either they have alot of hatred in there heart or just plain stupid. They like to see other people suffer to make themselves feel better.
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CCI;1104710; said:
Most individuals that are evil are into the occult...
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Bestow upon me magic
Wizard, all knowing, all wise
I want to rule my kingdom
Make sweet the breeze that was defiled
Dethrone the evil prince's iron fists
In velvet gloves of sin
Parade the grey robed monks
The vestal virgins, wheel the wyvern's in

Let the ceremony consecrate the marriage
Let me be the protege of five magics

Give me alchemy, give me sorcery
Give me wizardry, thermatology
Electricity, master all of these
Magic if you please, bring him to his knees

I master five magics, I master five magics
I master five magics, I master five magics

Possessed with hellish torment, possessed with hellish torment
I master magics five, I master magics five
Hunting the abyss lord, hunting the abyss lord
Only one will stay alive, only one will stay alive
He who lives by the sword, he who lives by the sword
Will surely also die, will surely also die
He who lives in sin, he who lives in sin
Will surely live the lie


Poison Was The Cure
I miss the warm embrace I felt
First time you touched me
Secure and safe in open arms
I should have known you'd crush me

A snake you were when we met
I loved you anyway
Pulling out your poisoned fangs
The venom never goes away

Serpent swims free in my blood
Dragons sleeping in my veins
Jackyl speaking with tongue
Roach egg-laying in my brain

Stalked beneath your shadow
Sleepwalking to the gallows
I'm the sun that beats your brow in
Till I finally threw the towel in

Never knowing if I'd wake up in a
Whirlpool got redundant
My brain was just some driftwood
In a cesspool I became dead
From a rock star to a desk fool
Was my destiny someone said
Life's a tide pool
Taste the waters life's abundant
Taste me
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Gatorubet;1104708; said:
Sat through a trial where the woman threw her two kids off of a bridge into a river in the winter. She was one of the most non-evil persons I ever saw. Mentally ill? She was, unquestionably. But she only wanted to send her two kids to the highest level of heaven, which as a Mormon she knew would happen if they died before a certain age. She has asked the Church to take her kids, as she could not cope with her problems. They said to have more faith and try harder instead. So an evil act can be done with no evil intent. Mens rea, or "guilty mind" was present, as she knew that it was a crime, but she thought she was doing a "greater good" thing because she loved them dearly, and she thought she was evil and would contaminate them if they stayed with her. She tried to give them away, but was told "no".

Makes you wonder about the nature of evil. Of course, to the kids, they are just as dead.
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." - Blaise Pascal
 
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