'Django Unchained' Actress detained and cuffed

[MaxBuck]

Right, if you don't have anything to hide, why do you care if the NSA monitors your phone calls.

Used to be that Americans took their rights seriously. It's a slippery slope, giving up rights for convenience, security, or anything really.

I guess I regard unannounced eavesdropping on my telephone conversations as much more of an intrusion on my privacy than asking for my ID. Not saying others don't disagree, as obviously they do, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

For the record, I'm foursquare against the NSA monitoring my phone calls ... but greatly in favor of their monitoring calls made by Islamic extremists. Yeah, I know.

 

[Jagdaddy]

I mean, from the audio, it was pretty clear to me at least, that after she told him she had a publicist, he realized she wasn't a criminal, yet he kept up. At which point, it wasn't about protecting or serving, it was about a regular citizen having the audacity to not submit to his ego and authority. He clearly states that if she just gives up her Id, he's gone. So why push it? Because he's THE LAW, and the only people above the law are cops.

I haven't bothered to listen to the audio, but, out of curiosity, if instead of saying "I have a publicist", she'd said "Don't you know who I am?" would you have a different take?

 

[OH10]

I guess I regard unannounced eavesdropping on my telephone conversations as much more of an intrusion on my privacy than asking for my ID. Not saying others don't disagree, as obviously they do, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

For the record, I'm foursquare against the NSA monitoring my phone calls ... but greatly in favor of their monitoring calls made by Islamic extremists. Yeah, I know.

I consider both intrusions. If an average person walked up to you on the street and asked you for your ID, what would you say? Why is it that we so freely do things for the police (again, uniformed government workers) we wouldn't do for other people?

 

[OH10]

This "if you haven't done anything wrong, what are you worried about?" bullshit is a terrible slippery slope. I've heard officers ask people to search their car during a routine traffic stop. No cause. Just looking for consent. And they give people that same line, "What are you worried about?", so they let the police search their car just to dispel any suspicion. Fuck that. It's my car. If I don't want you to see the stale hamburger from Wendy's underneath my driver's seat, then it's my goddamn right to say 'no.' I wouldn't even let my own mother search my car. Why would I ever let some stranger just because he has a uniform?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Right, if you don't have anything to hide, why do you care if the NSA monitors your phone calls.

Yeah, like a cop performing his duties and asking you to ID yourself in a public place is the same thing as a government spy organization listening to your private phones calls.

I consider both intrusions. If an average person walked up to me on the street and asked you for your ID, what would you say? Why is it that we so freely do things for the police (again, uniformed government workers) we wouldn't do for other people?

I'd tell the "average person" to fuck off, because it's none of his/her business. It is the business of a police officer in the performance of their duties.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I haven't bothered to listen to the audio, but, out of curiosity, if instead of saying "I have a publicist", she'd said "Don't you know who I am?" would you have a different take?

I get what you're saying, but she wasn't getting belligerent, she was crying. She was acting ridiculous, but because she was upset, imo.

OH1O nails it. We willingly give police information that they then use against us. I mean, it's not like there aren't THOUSANDS of cases of mistaken identity, false eye witness accounts, and innocent people serving hard time. I'm not willing to sacrifice my freedom or rights to make a cops job easier. What's scary are all of the videos showing just how angry police get when you exercise your rights. It would be hilarious if it weren't, ya know, our freedom at stake.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Yeah, like a cop performing his duties and asking you to ID yourself in a public place is the same thing as a government spy organization listening to your private phones calls.


I'd tell the "average person" to fuck off, because it's none of his/her business. It is the business of a police officer in the performance of their duties.

Except in America, I'm not required to carry Id. So for not bringing my wallet, I should go to jail?

And while you don't think they're comparable, you don't get to choose which parts of the constitution im allowed to hold sacred. The funny thing is, they are listening to your phone calls, so there's that.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Except in America, I'm not required to carry Id. So for not bringing my wallet, I should go to jail?

The bitch had her ID and felt that just because she's a celebrity (in her mind) she wasn't obligated to follow a lawful order. And has been stated by others here (which you either refuse to acknowledge or understand), usually simply stating your fucking name is sufficient self-identification...if you don't have ID on you and you've verbally identified yourself, then the cop has zero grounds to apprehend you for failing to identify. If I'm out jogging and a cop stops me for ID, I'll tell him my name and tell him I don't have ID on me. If he pushes the issue, I'll tell him I'll be more than happy to show him ID once I get home and get it.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I know you have a unique ability to see inside the African-American female mind, but to me it seemed more like this wasn't the first time she'd been asked to identify herself despite not doing anything wrong and she thought that since she had made something of herself she was past being harassed by police.

 

[scooter1369]

The point that keeps getting glossed over is the fact they were doing something wrong. Multiple people called the police about a raggedy dressed black chick giving a white guy a blow job half in, half out of a fucking Silver Mercedes. Why do you think the cop asked for ID?

 

[BUCKYLE]

I didn't hear that multiple people called, only that they "received a call". Not doubting ya, just didn't hear that.

As to why the cop asked for ID? Because he's a cop and thinks he can do whatever he wants?

 

[OHSportsFan]

On one hand I agree with the people saying "just give up the damn ID and this is no problem." Because it is a minor act that saves a major trouble.

On the other hand...right now the current attitude by people in this thread would have The Crown still ruling over us.

 

[Buckeneye]

As to why the cop asked for ID? Because he's a cop and thinks he can do whatever he wants?

While I find myself agreeing with certain things you say, this right here is about a god damn joke. I'd say it has more to do with the police officer wanting to know exactly who he's dealing with and if she has a warrants and/or previous arrests for the same thing someone else called about.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I'm just saying that there's a reason we were granted protection from things by the constitution. It wasn't a list of shit we couldn't do, it's a list of shit the govt can't do. Anything that the constitution says that the gov't shouldn't be doing is something we shouldn't allow them to do. The cop in this case, since "someone called", is apparently allowed to ask for id. From the audio, he didn't seem to believe he was dealing with a criminal, but couldn't just let it go. Why?

 

[MaxBuck]

I understand everyone wants to discuss the civil liberties aspect of this case, but damn! Is that one skanky sister or what?