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Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

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Zurp;2171525; said:
I try to believe this, too. But if it really had nothing to do with the football program, would anyone have cared about this case? If there's a sex abuser found guilty 500 miles from where you live, and he has no ties to any sports or any other public position, would you know about him? The fact that this story is the size that it is tells me that it actually does have something to do with sports.
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All I know is that if this kind of thing happened at University of XXX Medical School, the hospital would be closed in about a week's time. That is to say, if it were just one person who pulled this kind of thing, you probably wouldn't close it down, but if the hospital administration knew about it and swept it under the rug because they knew they would tarnish their rep and likely lose funding, you've got no choice but to gut it. In my IMHO, the fact that this is related to football has kept them above water as long as it has.
 
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buxfan4life said:
A million times this. How could you not investigate if it is proven there was a cover-up? Even if the AD was not directly involved, it would still show that the institution itself was complicit in trying to "save the brand" as it were, and should be grounds for a full NCAA enema.



I have to disclose that I personally am hoping for a NCAA probe, and that it brings to light all of the little rumors I have heard through old PSU players of what Joe the Enabler (some of it while he was still an assistant, these guys I know played in the 60's and early 70's) which are pretty damaging if they are true. To see the ivory glow slapped off the face of those "We win with honor" assholes would be a glorious thing.

Put it this way, if these old guys are telling the truth, then Penn State should have received the death penalty already.
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Penn State is like any other college football school. We all cheat. All our head coaches know what's going on. In Ohio State's case, they were dumb enough to get caught. The fact these assholes think their program is above all of that is what pisses me off. Yeah it would be nice if Tressel really was that boring coachspeak guy who cares more about the kids' future than he does about wins and losses....but it's just not true. He's no Saban or anything, but I remember the story about Barton getting in trouble for the cigars in the locker room after the '06 Michigan game........total bull shit. Tressel was right there with him smoking up.

Any college football team that has won a National Championship has cheated ever since the dawn of CFB. The image these people have of Joe Paterno is so fake it's infuriating.
 
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Bucklion;2172106; said:
http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156000135&mid=156000135&sid=890&style=2

Holy crap, one of the BOT posted some nebulous hypotheticals on BWI? It really is a train wreck over there.
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The post at issue:

lubrano
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IgnoreRe: Curley heard directly from me about my criticisms of Joe from 2000-2004ReplyI have some hypothetical questions for all of you. What if, on a very high level, Joe was aware in 98 of the JS investigation? Furthermore, what if JVP initiated JS's separation months before the 98 investigation began, thus confirming that his decision had nothing to do with the investigation? What if Spanier, Schultz and Curley conferred with legal counsel in 2001 as well as with JVP before deciding on a plan of action? I'd like to know your knee-jerk reactions to these hypothetical situations.
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FCollinsBuckeye;2172110; said:
The post at issue:
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from psu rival's head honcho:


Tom McAndrew


Post #13990


Damned if I do, damned if I don't ...
BWI's contract with Rivals specifies that neither the publisher, the employees of the publisher, or the monitors of the message boards can disclose personal details about any poster based on info they can access when the poster registers a handle. As such, I can't say whether any particular poster is whom they claim to be, or whom they act as they are. Thus, I can't comment on whether the poster in question is who many think it might be.

Other the other hand, I have banned posters for misrepresenting who they are.

Draw your own conclusions.

Tom

 
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and to my knowledge, lubrano has not been banned.


from a psu rivals mod:


PSU Mike


Post #7501
Chicago, via Seattle & Arlington, VA


http://bwi.rivals.com/rfFan.asp?User=43314Here's what I know ...


I contacted somebody I believe to be Anthony Lubrano through contact information on his BOT candidate site. In that exchange I mentioned some of "lubrano's" posts here, and whoever replied to me clearly understood what was in those posts I referenced.
 
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There will be a day of confusion and possible acceptance. Then the echo chamber will start to spin out and amplify all the tortured rationalizations for JoePed's actions. Within 72 hours, JoePed will be back up on his pedestal with halo firmly in place, and anyone who says otherwise will be shouted down. Within a week, an entire bizzarro world intellectual framework will have been constructed that is both self-reinforcing and immune to outside criticism.

That will be the knee-jerk reaction to the e-mails.

I mock JoePed as "Dear Leader from whom all knowledge flows," but there's an underlying truth. That fanbase's entire sense of self-worth is wrapped up in Paterno's image. They can never let go of it.
 
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Marsh, why do you care?


Who did you vote for in the BOT election?


Wait....that's right, you didn't graduate from Penn State.....so why do you care about the school's BOT?


Again, if you would have spent half as much time working hard to get through school as you do making 20,000+ posts on two different message boards, maybe you could've graduated from Penn State and had a dog in this fight.


There's nothing wrong with subway alumni at all....but there is something wrong with subway alumni who think they're something they're not, and strongly interject themselves into the middle of a crisis about "their" university.
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Nice. I can't imagine hanging around that place. What a bunch of cocksuckers.
 
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A different take: Why Penn State should let go of the past

As for Penn State? Well, even with the Sandusky trial over and done with, it will not have closure in the same way that Rangers has had closure. It's just not possible. And perhaps that's entirely deserved.
But Penn State does have an opportunity, I think, to at least symbolically make a break from the past.
The folks that run the university and the folks who run the football program have a chance to show the world that, yes, they do understand the enormity of the tragedy that unfolded there, that they do understand that things can't and won't ever be the same, and that while there were indeed a great many good things about Penn State and Penn State football for a long, long time, there were major flaws as well. Those flaws were terrible flaws indeed, and innocents suffered as a result.
So the break must be made.
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