Diet-Fitness-General Wellness Your Thoughts?

[BB73]

I don't really like rice.

Except when its wrapped around sushi.

I'd be on her like white on rice.

 

[muffler dragon]

Nah, my grumble is that coffee is okay by him. Shit, if you want to talk about something that takes a ridiculous amount of processing to make it potable, coffee is more processed than probably any food on his list.

Oh, you mean like grinding up the beans? Similar to mashing the taters. Yup, lots o' processing going on there. :p

 

[buckeyebri]

Interesting. Rice was another one that didn't really make sense to me to be on his no-no list, but I wasn't going to argue it since I don't really like rice.

Except when its wrapped around sushi.

Rice makes no sense to me. Don't most Asian cultures like Japan have a very low rate of heart attack?

 

[Yertle]

Japan has an extremely high rate of heart attacks and high blood pressure. I don't think it's so much from the rice though. But they eat more sodium than anywhere I've been in the world, and the smoking is out of control. When you order something "light" there, it doesn't mean low fat... it means low sodium.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Oh, you mean like grinding up the beans? Similar to mashing the taters. Yup, lots o' processing going on there. :p

Well, there's the roasting, THEN the grinding, then the cooking, then the fact that don't even eat what you're cooking.

Sounds like a lot more work than boiling for 15 minutes.

I mean, if all I got from potatoes was drinking the water left over after boiling it, that would seem pretty stupid to me.

 

[muffler dragon]

Well, there's the roasting, THEN the grinding, then the cooking, then the fact that don't even eat what you're cooking.

Sounds like a lot more work than boiling for 15 minutes.

I mean, if all I got from potatoes was drinking the water left over after boiling it, that would seem pretty stupid to me.

I was meaning in the sense that there's nothing added to it. It's heated, ground, and brewed; but there's no odd adulterations.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I was meaning in the sense that there's nothing added to it. It's heated, ground, and brewed; but there's no odd adulterations.

Yeah, but the same pretty much holds true with wheat/flour/cornmeal/etc with grinding it to make it palatable, right? Obviously, you aren't ingesting the grounds, so it's not exactly comparing apples-to-apples.

Really, it just stuck in my craw a bit when he points to some food and says (more or less) "if you have to process it this much to make it edible, maybe you shouldn't be eating it?" while drinking coffee every morning that has to be processed just as much as flour.

 

[muffler dragon]

Yeah, but the same pretty much holds true with wheat/flour/cornmeal/etc with grinding it to make it palatable, right? Obviously, you aren't ingesting the grounds, so it's not exactly comparing apples-to-apples.

Really, it just stuck in my craw a bit when he points to some food and says (more or less) "if you have to process it this much to make it edible, maybe you shouldn't be eating it?" while drinking coffee every morning that has to be processed just as much as flour.

I'm sure if you brewed some flour water, then it wouldn't be an issue. (as you allude to above)

 

[Mac]

Our company has a nurse come in once a week from mid November to mid January to weigh people who want to participate. (we get wellness points then points = $) well I've lost 4 pounds since mid November and 1 since mid last week before Christmas. Eating habits didn't really change. So

 

[buxfan4life]

Our company has a nurse come in once a week from mid November to mid January to weigh people who want to participate. (we get wellness points then points = $) well I've lost 4 pounds since mid November and 1 since mid last week before Christmas. Eating habits didn't really change. So

Glad to see that the extra masturbation is doing something good for you.

 

[OneBuckeye]

Ok, so I think Mathieu Lalonde (phd organic chemist from Harvard) presented some interesting things at the Ancestral Health Symposium this year.

http://ancestryfoundation.org/

His presentation. 48 minutes long. There is also a link to his slidedeck in the comments, but I can't access them right now. Go to 32:00 to get the good stuff about lectins.

http://vimeo.com/27570335

A brief summary of his presentation is here.

http://www.paleoplan.com/2011/08-12/ancestral-health-symposium-review/

So what did I learn from all the keynote speakers and smarty pants audience members? Surprisingly, with such a famous array of speakers, the most memorable talk for me was Mat Lalonde’s. Maybe I’m just a sucker for slightly haughty, moderately condescending, disgustingly nerdy people, but he sort of put the whole audience in check. He reminded us that as whole-heartedly as we may believe in Paleo, the rest of the world isn’t going to take it seriously until “core scientists” do, so we can’t be going around shooting off our mouths about the “fact” that nobody is genetically adapted to eating Neolithic foods (grains, legumes, refined sugar, dairy). And other overzealous, far-fetched statements like it. Some people are more adapted than others.

He showed me that not ALL things considered anti-nutrients actually hurt us. Some lectins are fine, while others are not. Some saponins are actually good for us, while others are bad. Every food contains anti-nutrients and it’s ridiculous to say that we shouldn’t eat Neolithic foods solely because of their anti-nutrient content. We need to be more precise than that.

 

[powerlifter]

Our company has a nurse come in once a week from mid November to mid January to weigh people who want to participate. (we get wellness points then points = $) well I've lost 4 pounds since mid November and 1 since mid last week before Christmas. Eating habits didn't really change. So

You could screw with your water intake and really shit all over your company's idea.I've dropped 20lbs+ overnight.

 

[southcampus]

I've got a cruise to go on in March so I'm getting back into running and lifting after 6 months off.

Man I'm out of shape. I'm also dieting quite a bit with one cheat day a week in there. Shit sucks.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Has anyone ever heard of tough mudder? It looks like it would be fun and they have one here in town.

http://toughmudder.com/

 

[knapplc]

I had set a goal of walking 400 miles last year. Mostly due to what I believe was poor record-keeping, I ended up ten miles short.

So this year my goal is 500 miles, and I'm keeping track starting in January, not April. Got five miles in already, and this is in the thick of family visiting from outside the country. I'm also planning on getting my bike down from its rack in the garage, and riding another 500 miles, which shouldn't be that hard.

I've been eating terribly lately. I've been cooking for huge groups of people - 20 or more three times in the last two weeks, ten or more most every other night - and it's been easy-to-make-for-a-group food like spaghetti & meatballs, pizza, enchiladas/quesadillas, stuff like that.

Starting next week the diet needs to change. I'm reading up at Mark's Daily Apple and I'm going to start incorporating his suggestions into my diet, and hopefully I can drop some weight. I've been above three bills for the last decade. Time to change.


HELP
I live in Nebraska, and in the winter we have crap fruit selections in our grocery stores. Lincoln doesn't have a lot of choices in the produce department - mostly green bananas, questionable apples, oranges and the like, and other stuff that's typically picked green and shipped here, so when it arrives it's either nearly rotten or still green, and never really ripens.

Does anyone else live in an area where you have trouble finding good fruit, and if so, what do you do about it?