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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98E0ec5F48k"]Hitler Reacts To The Firing Of Joe Paterno - YouTube[/ame]
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Bucky32
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A couple issues I have with things that have been said recently regarding Paterno and his firing..
First, he coached there with the permission of the trustees. He could of been fired for any number of things, including not winning enough, bring controversy to the university, or a majority of the trustees deciding that they were just tired of having Joe Paterno on campus. He had no 'right' to finish the season, he had not 'earned' the power to stay. He had his job as long as the trustees were willing to let him have it. There are thousands of people every year who are let go after putting in decades of outstanding work, and there is not half the uproar over that as there is over Paterno. To be honest, Paterno should consider himself lucky that he was allowed to coach for the past 15 years. In an era where most people either voluntarily retire or are forced to retire in their 60s he was able to last until his mid 80s.
Second, is Paterno really "a good guy?" Who really knows? I mean sure, he has won a lot of football games. And to the best of my knowledge hasn't assaulted anyone or cheated on his wife with Penn State co-eds. Kudos to him for that. But, at the end of the day, he said it himself... "All I want to do is finish the season." Over the past decade or so Penn State has had more players get in legal trouble than almost any other program. That should call into question some of the "hero worship" lavished upon him. And now this? Let's just face the facts.. Joe Paterno was a good coach and an average human being. He, like millions of other Americans, did not cheat on his wife or beat people up. Like millions of other Americans he also tried to give to charity and help those struggling with poverty or other issues. His work there is no better than what tens of millions of Americans do each year, privately, without the media saying how great they are for doing it.
Third, there is something to be said about Paterno not going to the police. Or, at the very least, Paterno should not have forgotten about the incident like he did. The bare minimum that someone in the position of power that he occupied would be to have asked the AD how the investigation was going, what was happening, and when the police would be notified. The bare minimum would have been for Paterno to get Sandusky away from his program and away from Penn State.
Let's remove the name Paterno from this equation. Try this on for size: A student teacher at a middle school sees one of the teachers having sex with a student. That student teacher informs the teacher they work with, who goes on to tell the principle. From there, nothing happens. The student teacher forgets about it, the teacher forgets about, and the principle forgets about it. In a case like that, don't all three of them get blamed? The student teacher for not trying to get the matter reported. The teacher for just forgetting about it. And the principle for not informing law enforcement. And, had the principle sat on it and one of the other two went public they are considered a hero for putting the best interest of the kids before their own career. How is Paterno any different? He learned of it, told his (nominal) boss, and then did nothing. In any other situation not involving someone famous no one at all would stand up to protect them. The ONLY reason people are defending Paterno is because he had a great career as a football coach, is viewed as a good person, and is famous.
The fact is Paterno put his football program and his friend over the safety of children. Being in the position he was in he had the chance to become a NATIONAL CELEBRITY and poster for preventing sexual assault by making the simple decision to do the right thing. Hell, there would have been parades thrown in his honor for standing up and saying that I will put the safety of children over my football program. Had he done that his legacy would have been one of a great coach as well as a great person who had his priorities straight. Instead, his legacy will be a great coach who put his football program above all else. That is inexcusable, and that is why he got fired.
First, he coached there with the permission of the trustees. He could of been fired for any number of things, including not winning enough, bring controversy to the university, or a majority of the trustees deciding that they were just tired of having Joe Paterno on campus. He had no 'right' to finish the season, he had not 'earned' the power to stay. He had his job as long as the trustees were willing to let him have it. There are thousands of people every year who are let go after putting in decades of outstanding work, and there is not half the uproar over that as there is over Paterno. To be honest, Paterno should consider himself lucky that he was allowed to coach for the past 15 years. In an era where most people either voluntarily retire or are forced to retire in their 60s he was able to last until his mid 80s.
Second, is Paterno really "a good guy?" Who really knows? I mean sure, he has won a lot of football games. And to the best of my knowledge hasn't assaulted anyone or cheated on his wife with Penn State co-eds. Kudos to him for that. But, at the end of the day, he said it himself... "All I want to do is finish the season." Over the past decade or so Penn State has had more players get in legal trouble than almost any other program. That should call into question some of the "hero worship" lavished upon him. And now this? Let's just face the facts.. Joe Paterno was a good coach and an average human being. He, like millions of other Americans, did not cheat on his wife or beat people up. Like millions of other Americans he also tried to give to charity and help those struggling with poverty or other issues. His work there is no better than what tens of millions of Americans do each year, privately, without the media saying how great they are for doing it.
Third, there is something to be said about Paterno not going to the police. Or, at the very least, Paterno should not have forgotten about the incident like he did. The bare minimum that someone in the position of power that he occupied would be to have asked the AD how the investigation was going, what was happening, and when the police would be notified. The bare minimum would have been for Paterno to get Sandusky away from his program and away from Penn State.
Let's remove the name Paterno from this equation. Try this on for size: A student teacher at a middle school sees one of the teachers having sex with a student. That student teacher informs the teacher they work with, who goes on to tell the principle. From there, nothing happens. The student teacher forgets about it, the teacher forgets about, and the principle forgets about it. In a case like that, don't all three of them get blamed? The student teacher for not trying to get the matter reported. The teacher for just forgetting about it. And the principle for not informing law enforcement. And, had the principle sat on it and one of the other two went public they are considered a hero for putting the best interest of the kids before their own career. How is Paterno any different? He learned of it, told his (nominal) boss, and then did nothing. In any other situation not involving someone famous no one at all would stand up to protect them. The ONLY reason people are defending Paterno is because he had a great career as a football coach, is viewed as a good person, and is famous.
The fact is Paterno put his football program and his friend over the safety of children. Being in the position he was in he had the chance to become a NATIONAL CELEBRITY and poster for preventing sexual assault by making the simple decision to do the right thing. Hell, there would have been parades thrown in his honor for standing up and saying that I will put the safety of children over my football program. Had he done that his legacy would have been one of a great coach as well as a great person who had his priorities straight. Instead, his legacy will be a great coach who put his football program above all else. That is inexcusable, and that is why he got fired.
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GeorgiaBuck2;2032847; said:
That is the worse one I have seen yet. Not very creative at all. It could have been so much better.
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GeorgiaBuck2
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I think it was made about half a day ago. Whoever made it probably rushed it a little, but still entertaining.
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Yertle
Pounding out aggression, turns into obsession
How can Tom Bradley state that he takes the interim head coaching role with "mixed emotions"??? What are the emotions? How can there be a sliver of excitement or happiness from him?
With my benefits of hindsight, I'm now wondering if he means he's feeling "shame" and "sorrow". Could those be the mixed feelings?
With my benefits of hindsight, I'm now wondering if he means he's feeling "shame" and "sorrow". Could those be the mixed feelings?
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