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Decanonized Mythologized Disgraced Ped State Monster Coach Joe Paterno (Zombie Icon)

My assessment:

Joe (and the entire heirarchy around him) turned a blind eye on his friend's transgressions for well over a decade, enabling him to continue to prey on young boys with near impunity in and around the PSU football program.

For that, he has completely disgraced his considerable legacy as a football coach and iconic leader of his program. In addition, if he was willing to overlook the utter depravity of what Sanducky was doing, what else did he turn a blind eye to? I think 50 years of dirt is going to surface in the coming months, and it will be incredibly ugly.

However, it's difficult to believe any additional 'dirt' can be as horrifying as what Sandusky is accused of. Sub-human was his repeated behaviour, and inconscionable is the inaction by JoePa and everyone around him who knowingly turned a blind eye to Sandusky's abhorent behavior.

Disgraceful and dispicable, Blind Eye Joe.
 
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BuckBackHome;2032421; said:

Initially accused in 1998. Retires in 1999. Never coaches college football again. Sandusky was very successful at what he did. The architect of Linebacker U. Helped win national championships in 1982 and 1986. Recognized as college football's top assistant in 1986 and 1999.

Never any stories about Sandusky being pursued for a high-profile job. Never any rumors about him coming out of retirement.

But there's no shortage of stories and rumors about Penn State football sweeping problems under the rug, is there?

He was one of the frontrunners for the Virginia job in 2000. Glad he didn't get the job, because I was in grad school there from 2001-2004. What a POS.
 
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Taosman;2032439; said:
There it is.

As completely horrible as this entire story has been ... seeing that actually makes me tear up. I don't know why it breaks my heart even more than the evils perpetrated by Sandusky that have been exposed thus far but something about that addition is almost too much to bear. I knew this story would turn out to be orders of magnitude worse than we've seen so far ... but still was completely unprepared for that.

I don't think I can go to the game next weekend. If I see a single Penn State fan cheering, joking, having a good time let alone making excuses I truly think I will start splitting fucking skulls.

Shame on every single one of you rotten sons of bitches who have defended anyone who is in any way connected with these monstrous acts.
 
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buckiprof;2032013; said:
No, the truly sad day was when all of this broke. At least to me, to see the epic failure, legally and morally, at every conceivable level (janitorial staff, to GA, to head coach, to AD, to VP, to president) that allowed a predator to prey on the most vulnerable in our society, at a goddamn institution of higher education, that was a sad day for our society, our humanity.

Sorry man, this is not even in the same galaxy as when Woody was fired. That was football......this is not.
While I think the janitor definitely should've done something when he saw what was happening I can almost understand his inaction. He's so far down on the food chain that at some point I'm sure self preservation kicked in. He probably thought that if he reported this and nobody believed him, they couldn't prove it or whatever he'd be squashed like a bug. I'm just guess of course. As for the others there was absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
 
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Muck;2032433; said:
Second Mile was used as a pedophile sex ring.

Which is probably a given. *sigh*

For anyone who has paid attention to the literature about pedophilia (statistics, especially in terms of frequency in the general population) or taken note of the fact that no class of people is exempt from harboring them, there is potential for a greater horror story here.

I think it is not a maybe, but a statistical probability, that there are many pedophiles who have chosen sports as a profession. What if this case causes the lid to be pried off and bunches of coaches, ADs, former players, etc. come crawling out. If there ever was an underground coven of pedophiles from the sporting world, Sandusky's 2 Mile could have been an ideal gathering place for them. He had the $$, he had the prestige, he had the contacts.

I don't know how to measure the shock-value to the public. When the Catholic church or the Boy Scout scandals broke, not everybody was Catholic or in the Scouts. But, millions more people follow sports.

If this in any way proves true, as skin-crawlingly sickening and mind-bending as it would be, I hope they expose them all to the light of day. Hang 'em all.
 
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Muck;2032433; said:
Second Mile was used as a pedophile sex ring.
And for all these years everyone else thought that place was in Egypt.

Truly disturbing stuff if found to be true.

Aside: Anyone want to start a petition to oust State Penn from B1G?

(We'll let the Big East take them).
 
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DubCoffman62;2032458; said:
While I think the janitor definitely should've done something when he saw what was happening I can almost understand his inaction. He's so far down on the food chain that at some point I'm sure self preservation kicked in. He probably thought that if he reported this and nobody believed him, they couldn't prove it or whatever he'd be squashed like a bug. I'm just guess of course. As for the others there was absolutely no excuse whatsoever.

No excuse. I don't give a goddamn mother FUCK what your position is, it has nothing to fucking do with that.

If you are a motherfucking volunteer waterboy and you see this, you have the same goddamn responsibility to report it to the police as the President of the university.

I don't mean to direct this at you, Dub, I'm making this statement in general.

Regardless, the whole foundation of the anti-JoePa movement has been that he had a higher moral responsibility than what the law described. Moral responsibility does not take ones position into account, it simply IS.

There is no excuse for anyone to sit on this kind of information, whether you were frightened about your job or any other lame ass excuse.
 
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BlufftonBuckeye;2032507; said:
No excuse. I don't give a goddamn mother [censored] what your position is, it has nothing to [censored]ing do with that.

If you are a mother[censored]ing volunteer waterboy and you see this, you have the same goddamn responsibility to report it to the police as the President of the university.

I don't mean to direct this at you, Dub, I'm making this statement in general.

Regardless, the whole foundation of the anti-JoePa movement has been that he had a higher moral responsibility than what the law described. Moral responsibility does not take ones position into account, it simply IS.

There is no excuse for anyone to sit on this kind of information, whether you were frightened about your job or any other lame ass excuse.
You're right, I'm just saying that I can understand the people that low down on the totem pole being hesitant to get involved, not that it's right.Also, putting myself in their shoes I'd like to think that I'd do the right think and I think that I would. It's just hard to say for sure what you'd do unless you've been in their shoes. People don't always act rationally in those types of situations. Just look at the Chinese toddler video. There's lots of apathy in this world.
 
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DubCoffman62;2032458; said:
While I think the janitor definitely should've done something when he saw what was happening I can almost understand his inaction. He's so far down on the food chain that at some point I'm sure self preservation kicked in. He probably thought that if he reported this and nobody believed him, they couldn't prove it or whatever he'd be squashed like a bug. I'm just guess of course. As for the others there was absolutely no excuse whatsoever.

The janitor reported it to his supervisor. Unfortunately, it didn't go any further. Way too much self preservation going on at every level. The one guy who didn't need to worry about that at the time - Joe Pa - could've overcome all of it.
 
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