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Decanonized Mythologized Disgraced Ped State Monster Coach Joe Paterno (Zombie Icon)

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MaxBuck;2094850; said:
Huge difference between "not showing sympathy" and repeatedly trumpeting how morally superior you are to a man who made a grievous error in judgment but also did much to help many people over his lifetime.

I understand and agree with those who are outraged over the horrific actions of Jerry Sandusky. But I also have some sympathy for Paterno, a man who evidently found it difficult to reconcile the acts that were reported to him with twenty years of experience with a man he thought was caring and morally upright. This kid of conflict (often referred to as cognitive dissonance) can paralyze one's usual decision process.

Lot of people have engaged in what I've called an orgy of self-congratulation relative to their willingness to post criticisms on a fan message board. If you have ever been in a similar situation and behaved differently, either intervening directly or hammering at the police until the perp was arrested, then you have a right to express this sort of vitriol. Otherwise, I think the best response is self-examination, along with gratitude that we have not been faced with such a thing.
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Sorry man, I can't buy it. He didn't go to the police when a man he saw probably every day was raping children. I hope I'm never in the situation, but I sure as hell know I wouldn't just report it to my boss. I'd be on the phone with the police the second I heard about it.

I've worked with kids plenty in my life and done plenty of volunteer work. I know how fragile kids can be in difficult situations. Seeing someone take advantage of that would spark a rage in me that I've probably never felt. I wouldn't just go through the motions.

I'm not trying trumpet anything. I'm disgusted that a man, in such a position of power, trust and leadership (of kids/young adults, even), was aware of child rape and did not tell the police.

EDIT: I haven't read the pages between this post and your quoted post here. Don't know if it matters, but figured it was worth mentioning.
 
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OSUBucks22;2094835; said:
Penn Live
Westboro Baptist Church says it will picket Joe Paterno's funeral
By DUSTIN HOCKENSMITH, The Patriot-News

Westboro Baptist Church said today it will picket legendary Penn State football coach Joe Paterno's funeral. Margie Phelps sent a tweet shortly after Paterno's death was announced saying "WBC will picket his funeral."

Westboro Baptist Church, based in Topeka, Kansas, has also recently threatened to picket outside Beaver Stadium for the Penn State-Nebraska game, which was the first played after former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with more than 40 counts of sex crimes against minors.

Westboro also threatened to picket the funeral of seven Perry County children who died in a tragic fire in March.

Members of Westboro Baptist Church blame Americans' sins for anything bad that happens, such as children's deaths in fires or military personnel killed in wars. Their protests have deeply offended people everywhere they have gone. However, the group recently won a U.S. Supreme Court case, in which the court ruled that WBC has the right to protest funerals under the First Amendment.
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Any word if they'll picket wearing Pedo Bear suits?
 
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Gentlemen, discuss......

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Joe Paterno was a great man in so many ways. We can never forget his dedication to excellence, his charity work and the number of men he impacted. He was a champion in so many ways.

But in addition, he became part of a situation where he could have done more. He should have followed up and called the police immediately. What if his grandchildren would have been the victims?

Both are part of Joe Pa's legacy. He was a mandated reporter who did not contact Children's Service or the police. He fumbled in the end zone, to use a football metaphor. Whether or not he knew the validity or the scope of suspected abuse, it was his duty to report.

Now his legacy is great as a man, as an educator, and as a coach. But that legacy has a stain.

I will always see Joe Pa as a great man with a flaw.
 
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gregorylee;2095482; said:
absolutely the best outcome, I agree. Freaky pedostaters linch WBC freako's. birds would be chirping and butterfly's flying, it would be a beautiful thing.
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It might even achieve rainbows and unicorns status.

In any case, it's a happy, happy thought (for those of us with a disposition tilted slightly to the dark side.)
 
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Apache;2095500; said:
Joe Paterno was a great man in so many ways. We can never forget his dedication to excellence, his charity work and the number of men he impacted. He was a champion in so many ways.

But in addition, he became part of a situation where he could have done more. He should have followed up and called the police immediately. What if his grandchildren would have been the victims?

Both are part of Joe Pa's legacy. He was a mandated reporter who did not contact Children's Service or the police. He fumbled in the end zone, to use a football metaphor. Whether or not he knew the validity or the scope of suspected abuse, it was his duty to report.

Now his legacy is great as a man, as an educator, and as a coach. But that legacy has a stain.

I will always see Joe Pa as a great man with a flaw.
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I will always see Joe Pa as a piece of shit that could have prevented more than a few boys from being raped right under his huge nose, but didn't want to tarnish his legacy, so he did nothing. Great men don't do nothing when children are being raped.
 
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/22/1057341/-F**k-Joe-Paterno"F**k Joe Paterno"

Yes, you read that right- Fuck Joe Paterno. And you can HR me, unfollow me, curse me out or do whatever you want for saying that. Have at it. I don't care.
I don't care that Joe Paterno is dead. I don't care what he did for Penn State. I don't care about how many wins he got, or how great a coach he was. I don't want to see your glowing tributes to him, or gaze upon your precious photo layouts, or hear about all his great accomplishments. I don't want to hear about what a great man he was, and get told I'm complicit in his death or that I'm not a decent human being since I'm not saddened by his death.
But more than anything, I don't want to read your pathetic excuses for what he did-or more importantly, what he didn't do, or that what he did was not different really than buying chocolate or ignoring kids dealing drugs in the parking lot. And I don't want to hear about innocent until proven guilty, this isn't a court of law and his pathetic inaction is part of the public record.
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Read the whole thing. It's not all vitriol.
 
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