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DE Noah Spence (Official Thread)

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kujirakira said:
Obviously it's not like cancer.
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One might argue the participative component of smoking for lung cancer, or of alcohol consumption for liver cancer, or diet for colon cancer.

In fact, many diseases have participative elements. I'm not in any way excusing drug abuse; more saying that those who have sympathy for sufferers of many other conditions but regard addicts as morally bankrupt people who deserve whatever they get are not being entirely consistent.

Regardless, I hope that Noah Spence coming clean with his parents about his problem is a positive sign that he might overcome it and get back to a productive life. He really does seem to me like a fine young man who has an unfortunate and dangerous weakness.
 
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MaxBuck said:
a fine young man who has an unfortunate and dangerous weakness.
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"Weakness" really is a better word than addiction here IMO. For all we know, Spence tried ecstasy twice in his life and got busted both times: it's just the SOP today that when you get busted for anything, "rehab" is the answer. I think likely the bigger issue than some deep insatiable appetite for MDMA is a lack of self-control or delayed gratification. Especially when your life and livelihood are on the line, you have to be able to JUST SAY NO.
 
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Coqui said:
All human beings I personally know have been able to say no to things when their career is on the line.
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You must live a fortunate life. I'm not going to make any excuses for Spence, but I've known 4 people who I KNOW made the wrong decision that affected their career. I would guess there are a few compromised careers where I didn't know the reason...
 
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This

I have know many people in my lifetime that could not say "no" to whatever their habitual vices were (alcohol, drugs, gambling, sex, etc) and for the most part either ruined their lives or it killed them. I have seen over the years many college athletes (not just Buckeyes) cave into their vices as well. Call it poor choices or bad luck but it bit them in the ass nonetheless. Very sad but it happens.
 
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matcar said:
You must live a fortunate life. I'm not going to make any excuses for Spence, but I've known 4 people who I KNOW made the wrong decision that affected their career. I would guess there are a few compromised careers where I didn't know the reason...
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Or marriages, friendships, health, mortgage, etc.

Weakness and proclivity to addiction are as human as pulling yourself up afterwards (or before).
 
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With Spence out for the foreseeable future and McMillan playing so well at LB. Do you think we see Grant play some Rush DE? I know blitzing is different than playing with your hand down but Grant has always been good at getting pressure on the QB.
 
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Tlangs said:
With Spence out for the foreseeable future and McMillan playing so well at LB. Do you think we see Grant play some Rush DE? I know blitzing is different than playing with your hand down but Grant has always been good at getting pressure on the QB.
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I have thought for some time now that Grant is playing out of position. And should be a DE. He would do well there. But, I guess the problem was the lack of depth at all LBer positions for several years. Now, it's much less an issue.
 
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Tlangs said:
With Spence out for the foreseeable future and McMillan playing so well at LB. Do you think we see Grant play some Rush DE? I know blitzing is different than playing with your hand down but Grant has always been good at getting pressure on the QB.
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That would take valuable reps away from guys like Tyquan Lewis and Jayln Holmes, I could see him continue to play on run downs and come off the field on 3rd downs in favor of McMillain
 
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MSURacerDT55 said:
That would take valuable reps away from guys like Tyquan Lewis and Jayln Holmes, I could see him continue to play on run downs and come off the field on 3rd downs in favor of McMillain
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But if having Grant at Rush DE gives the Bucks a better chance to win now, you don't worry about the reps. You make Lewis and Holmes earn their reps (not saying they aren't now), not sacrifice wins now just so they can get reps. You play the person who gives you the best chance today, whoever that is, be it Grant, Lewis, or Holmes.
 
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