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I remember a time when I was at a bar drinking beer. Set my beer down to go take a piss. Came back, took a drink from my bottle of beer and felt several pills go down. "Da frick was that?" -- "You'll be fine it was just some..."

I don't remember what it was now. It was early 90s so probably Valium or something.

It does happen...
 
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Being a college athlete brings several benefits and rewards, but it also brings responsibilities and penalties. Among these is the recognition that you will never be a "normal" student. You can't let someone get your drinks; you have to open the bottle or watch it be poured. You have to keep it under your control at all times. You can't do drugs, even the so-called "non-harmful drugs that everyone is doing". You can't borrow a pen or paper from another student, or do anything that could be construed as accepting inappropriate support. That's life as an athlete and it's what you sign up for when you accept that scholarship.
 
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A college athlete has the "right" to do what he wants but if they don't follow steve19's rules, among others, the university and governing institutions have the "right" to punish, including ending a relationship if deemed necessary. I personally don't think Spence should receive extensive punishment, especially if it is true he was not aware. If it turns out he did know I would cut ties. X is not a joke as it is often times laced with heroine or coke. Regardless I hope he and others learn from this incident.
 
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greyscarlet said:
A college athlete has the "right" to do what he wants but if they don't follow steve19's rules, among others, the university and governing institutions have the "right" to punish, including ending a relationship if deemed necessary. I personally don't think Spence should receive extensive punishment, especially if it is true he was not aware. If it turns out he did know I would cut ties. X is not a joke as it is often times laced with heroine or coke. Regardless I hope he and others learn from this incident.
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Laced? :lol:
 
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Steve19 said:
Being a college athlete brings several benefits and rewards, but it also brings responsibilities and penalties. Among these is the recognition that you will never be a "normal" student. You can't let someone get your drinks; you have to open the bottle or watch it be poured. You have to keep it under your control at all times. You can't do drugs, even the so-called "non-harmful drugs that everyone is doing". You can't borrow a pen or paper from another student, or do anything that could be construed as accepting inappropriate support. That's life as an athlete and it's what you sign up for when you accept that scholarship.
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I think this is overkill. Whatever a student-athlete is given, there's no "understanding" that they must forego being a normal kid; the reimbursement of tuition isn't enough to become an indentured servant.

Does that mean student-athletes should be ignorant of the possible downsides of their status? Of course not, but expecting them to live as though they're in a monastery is unrealistic and inappropriate.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
I would think ingesting and testing positive for ecstasy might be against team rules, Big 10 rules and NCAA rules. How it happens is irrelevant?
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I don't think it's irrelevant whether Spence intentionally took X or whether he was the victim of a practical joke (or more sinister action). I'd think if Spence could prove he was victimized without his awareness, the penalty could and should be moderated. Not sure that's going to be possible to prove, though.
 
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