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DE/LB Nathan Williams (official thread)

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bukIpower;1747178; said:
still he's one of the few players we can't really afford to miss. A Linebacker is one thing but we're a little thin I think at experienced depth on the dline. Hopefully he'll be ok!
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A little under three weeks 'till the opener and a full four weeks until Cryami. I think he'll be on the field...
 
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Williams wait and see

Defensive end Nathan Williams suffered an apparent left knee sprain during practice before the kick scrimmage Saturday. Insiders yesterday told The Dispatch that there appeared to be no immediate need for surgery.

The plan is to see if treatment can speed his return, which could come anywhere from a week to a month or more, depending on how the knee responds.

Junior Solomon Thomas went into camp No.2 at that end position - the primary pass-rushing spot - and likely will run with the first team. Melvin Fellows, who was redshirted as a freshman last year because of the glut of talent at the position, is expected to see more action. Energetic freshman David Durham might get a more serious look.
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OSU notebook: Sophomore corner leads depth charge | BuckeyeXtra
 
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So the extent of Williams' injury is important. Tim May reported in today's Dispatch that it is a sprain. By definition, a sprain is an injury to a ligament. A grade 1 sprain would mean the ligament is simply stretched and it's a matter of pain and swelling. Grade 2 would involved a partial tear.

We don't know the grade of Williams' sprain. That's why there is a wide range of estimated recovery times -- one to four weeks is the initial diagnosis.

Terrelle Pryor last year suffered a partial ligament tear -- a grade 2 sprain -- against New Mexico State. He was clearly limited for a few weeks, and even three-plus months later, it bothered him enough that he had arthroscopic surgery.

One might argue that a sprained knee hampers a defensive lineman more than a quarterback -- the lineman needs to push off and drive, putting more strain on his knee.

One or two weeks is no big deal -- Heyward had a high ankle sprain in camp two years ago, and it didn't seem to bother him a bit once the season started.

But four weeks takes OSU right up to the Miami game, when the Buckeyes will need all hands on deck. Defensive coordinator Jim Heacock likes to rotate 8 or 9 guys on the line, but until the backups prove themselves a bit more, it's imperative that OSU's starting four remain healthy.
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Williams' knee: What it means (Blogging the Buckeyes)
 
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Buckskin86;1747784; said:
Williams' knee: What it means (Blogging the Buckeyes)
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They typically can't tell a grade 1 from a grade 2 until most of the swelling goes down.

The swelling causes all of the stringy bits to push together, so you can't tell from the MRI whether there are any separated parts. Once the swelling goes down, the broken "strings" separate from the main part of the ligament and become visible on the scan.

The reason a grade 2 is worse, is less because of the loss of strength of the ligament, but more because the excess broken pieces of ligament cause pain as they rub against surrounding tissue. The scope proecedures we often hear about are going in and shaving off the excess broken bits of ligament (not doing any good in there anyway) so they don't cause irritation.

The good news is, that over the relatively short term (< years) the irritation caused by a partial tear should not cause permanent damage, and he will likely be able to wait until after the season to have the scope procedure, like TP last year.

All of this is assuming a grade 2, if he has a grade 1, he should be playing against Marshall, easily.



Source: I'm not a doctor, I'm an engineer that works with medical devices, so you pick up a lot of this sort of stuff on the job. I've also had a 3rd degree (complete tear) A-C separation in my shoulder and an ACL reconstruction, and, like most engineers, I like to know what is going on..

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Zander42;1747943; said:
Source: I'm not a doctor, I'm an engineer that works with medical devices, so you pick up a lot of this sort of stuff on the job. I've also had a 3rd degree (complete tear) A-C separation in my shoulder and an ACL reconstruction, and, like most engineers, I like to know what is going on..

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But did you stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night by any chance? :biggrin:

Good to know. Thanks for the input.
 
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NATHAN WILLIAMS INJURY UPDATE ... Early in Saturday's kick scrimmage at Ohio Stadium, OSU junior defensive end Nathan Williams was helped off the field after suffering what appeared to be a serious left knee injury.

Early on in Tuesday's practice, I was able to chat with Williams for a few moments about the injury, and he informed me that even though it was incredibly painful, it "wasn't too serious."

He said that he will basically rest and rehab the remainder of this week and go from there. My feeling after talking with him is that he will definitely be back before the opener on September 2.
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The Buckeye Times: NOTES FROM TUESDAY'S PRACTICE
 
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