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DB Malcolm Jenkins (All B1G, All-American, Thorpe Award, All-Pro, 2x Super Bowl Champion)

3074326;1416740; said:
Someone else is watching ESPN. Did someone else also respond to that little segment by "Todd McShay needs to not be on this earth any longer"? :p


I have not, but I will do so soon... Seriously Everytime I see that guy on TV he says something so poorly informed. I never thought i'd say this but Damn do I miss Kiper haha...
 
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3074326;1416758; said:
Morgan Trent/DB/Michigan: Trent exceeded expectations in every way. He measured 6-foot, 193 pounds and completed 23 reps on the bench. He ran his 40's in the very low 4.4-second range, which quelled the concern scouts had about his pure speed. Trent then put on a show in drills, displaying some of the best defensive back fundamentals of the day. He's a high-quality person which compliments his physical skills and Trent made a big jump up draft boards.

Watch film. You will not care what he does in a workout.

Right on. Regardless of his athletic ability, he is not a very good cornerback.
 
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3074326;1416740; said:
Someone else is watching ESPN. Did someone else also respond to that little segment by "Todd McShay needs to not be on this earth any longer"? :p

I saw that segment last night as well. I would go out on a limb and assume that he has watched very little of Jenkins/Buckeyes play. Even if he did he wouldn't get to see Jenkins that much, because he is locking his opponent down and making the other team throw the ball elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised to hear McAsshat that Beanie should be making the move to FB in the pros.
 
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Yeah, you all are correct, McShay is an effing bag o' douche.

All this crap about Jenkins stock dropping because he's "not fast enough in the 40", yet everyone quickly forgets that guys like Hester ran a "slow 40" and yet has sustained success in the pro's. Saftey or Conrer - who cares?! You are getting a guy that has the skill to do either, thats a BLESSING!
 
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SEREbuckeye;1416965; said:
everyone quickly forgets that guys like Hester ran a "slow 40" and yet has sustained success in the pro's.

Exactly! Hester ran a 4.44 at the Combine and then ran a 4.24 at the Miami pro day. Everyone ran slow at the combine, get over it. Let their play on the field do the talking. How much of a difference does two tenths of a second matter anyway?
 
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OregonBuckeye;1416757; said:

Try and reconcile these two statements from Pauline's article: :roll1:

Entering the combine scouts questioned Jenkins' speed and his ability to run downfield with elite receivers. His combine workout left scouts with a negative impression and even more questions. Jenkins' times were poor, as first reported by SI.com this morning. His initial 40 was as slow as 4.59 seconds on some watches, though he improved slightly on his second run. He looked terrific in position work but the slow times now hang around his neck like an albatross. Some teams will take Jenkins' name off their cornerback board and put it on the safety list. His combine performance does not mean Jenkins won't be a quality player at the next level as either a cornerback or safety. It does mean he's no longer considered an elite player in the 2009 NFL Draft and will drop at least a half dozen slots come April.
Notes: There were a number of cornerbacks who sizzled in the 40 on Tuesday including Oregon State's Brandon Hughes (4.38 seconds), South Carolina's Captain Munnerlyn (4.39 seconds) and Ladarius Webb of Nicholls State (4.37 seconds). So why are they not listed as risers? Defensive backs must be as proficient moving backwards as they are running forwards. All three struggled in position drills and in the case of Hughes and Munnerlyn, were two of the slowest in tests which time a defensive backs ability to backpedal over several yards on the field.
 
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billmac91;1416601; said:
I think Malcolm is a "feel" player and just understands the game on a level most don't see.

He is an amazing tackler, he understands schemes incredibly well, and he blankets receivers 99.9% of the time.

GM's with any understanding of the game know this. Leave it to ass-hats like Tood McShay to question Malcolm and Beanie's 40 times, while the entire field struggled on the same track.

It is what it is. PFT is dissing Beanie and Malcolm. ESPN is definately dissing Beanie, Malcolm, and all Buckeyes by saying the biggest disappointment of the combine was Ohio State players.

It's pandering to a casual sports fan who has no idea how bad the 40 times have been all week. Does your casual fan know that the top CB 40 time was a 4.46? I doubt it.

Oh well.....Malcolm WILL BE taken in the top 10, and we can look forward to McShay asking whether or not that team has taken him as a corner or safety and whether Malcolm has enough speed to play corner in the NFL. It is an absolute joke. I get upset at myself for even being interested in what the analysts have to say.

[sarcasm]Listen, you clearly don't read the internets over where the REAL experts are. We all know that Malcolm Jenkins was walked over by team after team this year. Truth is that on the "fast track" at Ohio State, he ran a 17 second 40 earlier this year. Why my mother is in her 80s an she whupped him wearing a potato sack.

WRs were licking their chops all year just to have the opportunity to run a route his direction.

Yessir, we all ought to go on over to ESPN like little sheep and make sure we go there often, just to make sure that "experts" such as Todd McShay pronounce our players "ready for the NFL". Why should NFL scouts have been watching Jenkins performance this year? Why do they watch the tape? They have Todd! If they'd just listened, sixteen of them would not have had to jump off that bridge when Jenkins ran such a slow time.

I'm sold. Jenkins will be lucky to be drafted at all. [/sarcasm]:hatepc:
 
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Tyler (STL): I am sort of confused. How can the combine be stronger than game tape? I am really talking about Malcolm Jenkins. I have watched every game he has ever played in and bias aside, he was a helluva cornerback. And now he's not all the sudden? I know he also played some safety, but still more at CB. Can you explain this thought process?

Mel Kiper: That's been the question for him since he stepped on the field. He didn't have great catch up speed. When you look at Jenkins, he ran a 4.55. He's not a little guy. He's a solid corner, physically. He looks like a safety. The question was always going to be was he going to run in the mid-4.4's, but he ran a 4.5. I think he is a corner, because there's no guarantee that he'll be a good safety. I think he's a system CB. And you don't have to have 4.3 speed to be a CB. I thought he would have been a top 10 pick, but now, I think it's 15-20.

ESPN: Chat with Mel Kiper - SportsNation
 
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Another tidbit from Kiper..

  • The jury is still out
  • Malcolm Jenkins, DB, Ohio State: Kiper has him at No. 12 on his Big Board, but that's a very fluid ranking. "There's not a player in this draft that the 40 time matters as much as Malcolm Jenkins," Kiper said before the combine. If Jenkins doesn't run a good 40, he'll become a late first-rounder because he'll be moved to safety in the NFL. But, Kiper said, "if he runs a good 40, he'll be a shutdown corner," in which case he'll be a top-10 pick. After Jenkins produced a mediocre 40 time at the combine, Kiper may be riding the fence on Jenkins until his pro day workout at Ohio State in mid-March.

Followed by this..

The general theme of Kiper's interviews this week: Don't get too excited about a 40 time.

Mel makes Todd look as smart as a dead tree, but he still says some :shake:-worthy things.
 
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all you really need to do is compare Malcolm to previous tOSU CB's....Gamble, Clements, Winfield, Youboty are all solid.

Malcolm is right up there with the best tOSU has had in recent history. You'd think that would be enough to shut these idiots up. They act as if he is potential bust type player, and quite honestly IMO, I'd be hard-pressed to name a safer pick.
 
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What a bunch of yahoos these analysts are. It amazes me that for people whose whole job is supposedly accurately paying attention to this, it is so easy for them get misled by a slower 40 or other such nonsense.

Also, why is it so difficult to understand that tracks differ and one should adjust 40 times accordingly? It's like me measuring Mel Kiper with a ruler that is actually 2 feet long but labeled 1 foot, then calling him short because he only comes out as 3 feet tall. People run slower on a slower track!

Anyway, looking forward to Jenkins getting drafted early anyway and going on to a great pro career.
 
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