Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

[ORD_Buckeye]

Yes, because hospitals have clearly been prioritizing money making for the past two months.

But please, tell me more about how both sides of my family have been lying about covid cases. I'm sure your youtuber has all of the facts on their dirty deeds.

Detailed analysis of how bad this is hurting hospitals financially.

Hospitals and other providers have already warned the nation that operations cannot handle the increasing volume of patients presenting with COVID-19. The pandemic has also prompted many organizations to cancel or delay revenue-driving procedures such as elective surgeries to free up capacity.

Some hospital CFOs have reported that their operations could shut down in the coming weeks as many organizations struggle to make payroll and pay vendors the rising prices of supplies in short supply, including personal protective equipment.

They found that a hospitalized COVID-19 patient will incur an average of $73,300 in costs. However, the total average allowed amount per commercially insured patient is just $33,221.

In total, hospitalized COVID-19 patients are projected to cost the system between $362 billion to $1.449 trillion in charges, depending on the incidence rate of the infection in the US population, the study found. Estimated allowed amounts ranged from $139 billion on the low end to $558 billion on the high end.

Many would lose between $8,000 and $10,000 per case, researchers stressed.

“The complexity of the patients is causing a decline in nurse staffing ratios as nurses and staff are required to help each other validate that their personal protective equipment (PPE) is properly fitted,” according to the analysis.

“Costs are also higher due to expanded cleaning regimens, PPE shortages, more frequent X-rays and CT scans, and overall higher supply and drug costs. Overall, it takes longer and requires more to care for these patients than even the proxy DRGs selected.”

Medicare is boosting Inpatient Prospective Payment System (IPPS) rates by 20 percent for COVID-19 hospitalizations.

However, the proxy group analysis showed that hospitals would still lose money with the Medicare payment bump, with most hospitals incurring a loss of about $1,200 per case.

And Texas is seeing a spike in cases as it rushes to reopen. Now, this could be the result of an accompanying spike in testing as Illinois experienced when Pritzker smuggled the planeload of test kits in from China, but this isn't certain yet.

Texas reported more than 1,000 new coronavirus cases for the third straight day as the state heads into its first weekend of reopening the economy with limited measures.

The Texas Department of Health reported 1,293 new positive cases of Covid-19 on Saturday, which is its second highest single-day infection rate. This also marks the first time Texas has recorded more than 1,000 cases three days in a row.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Which gets back to the nuance of the data. Much like when we said it was NY/Detroit more than most places, the decline of cases in NYC is misrepresenting the overall numbers. We're not plateauing in other states consistently, and of greater concern, we aren't dropping.

And we still have inconsistent reporting of data. We need to know all nursing home deaths, so we can properly track the volume of deaths for severity, and for tracking how disproportional the impact is among those close to death (vs the rest).

The reporting inconsistency of reporting has to do more with "confirmed" cases rather than with the amounts of deaths. A COVID-related death is not going to go uncounted whereas who knows how many people have actually been infected.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

And Texas is seeing a spike in cases as it rushes to reopen. Now, this could be the result of an accompanying spike in testing as Illinois experienced when Pritzker smuggled the planeload of test kits in from China, but this isn't certain yet.

Not sure how the spike in Texas cases can be caused by their re-opening if they've only been re-opened since Friday. In fact, the three days where they've had 1,000 daily cases where the day before they re-opened (Thu), they day they re-opened (Fri), and the day after they re-opened (Sat). So absolutely none of these cases can possibly be attributed to the re-opening.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Not sure how the spike in Texas cases can be caused by their re-opening if they've only been re-opened since Friday. In fact, the three days where they've had 1,000 daily cases where the day before they re-opened (Thu), they day they re-opened (Fri), and the day after they re-opened (Sat). So absolutely none of these cases can possibly be attributed to the re-opening.

Not saying there's a direct causality yet. I agree that needs more time to be determined. My point is that given the spike, WTF are they thinking in rushing reopening.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Not saying there's a direct causality yet. I agree that needs more time to be determined. My point is that given the spike, WTF are they thinking in rushing reopening.

I think they had been planning on re-opening the state somewhat for a while now, before than the spike just happened to appear the day before the re-opening. Now had the spike happened well before the re-opening and it was sustained (not actually a spike then), then yeah, re-opening could be questionable.

 

[Thump]

Look, I understand that you want to get back to work, but to pretend this is a common cold is just flat out fucking ignorant. Yes, the common cold and COVID19 are both a coronavirus, but that's where the similarity ends.

And here's a comparison of the difference in contagiousness between it and a common flu strain:
https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/a...091647-fluvscoronavirus-sidebyside2-nobar.mp4

Fax and evidents.

 

[Thump]

Something I haven't read on here is how the govt. is going to assist cities and municipalities who live off of income taxes.

They are going broke and will need to lay off large amounts of public safety employees to attempt to make-up for it.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

I think they had been planning on re-opening the state somewhat for a while now, before than the spike just happened to appear the day before the re-opening. Now had the spike happened well before the re-opening and it was sustained (not actually a spike then), then yeah, re-opening could be questionable.

Well you gotta test enough to have an idea of what is already there and what is new... Texas ranked 45 in testing by states... for 35 Million people ... thats not good enough + given the fact people were not overly keen on respecting the stay at home (for the last 3 weeks I’ve seen more people out and more cars out on the road.

You can reopen with restrictions if you have the testing in place... which is not but thats what re-opening safely comes down to, testing and tracing.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

I just figured bringing up posts from when this started where this was supposedly not even as bad as the flu was relevant to the graphic you posted showing that we wish this were just the flu. Maybe some learning had taken place and some people who hasn't taken it seriously before could start doing so. Clearly that was a stupid thought.

If anyone is to be blamed, blame this guy:

It’s a vast SEC conspiracy to bring down BP.

 

[jwinslow]

If anyone is to be blamed, blame this guy:



It’s a vast SEC conspiracy to bring down BP.

Pretty sure that a bat signal for Mr wall of text

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Pretty sure that a bat signal for Mr wall of text

Who has been incredibly quiet lately. Is he OK?

 

[buckeyebri]

Are you? Some of the most relieving experiences on this board have been after getting in an argument and then just admitting I was wrong.

You’ve been wrong before?

 

[buckeyebri]

Still working on giving up avocado toast.

I spent two years learning coding is not for me, but I'm sure that's the ticket for 1/5 of the country.

I hated coding, just couldn’t do it....

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

The refusals to wear masks just blows my mind. As a basic surgeon's mask is about not spreading it to other people, it's downright psychopathic not to wear one.

 

[buckeyebri]

Last I checked, you had to get at least a 29 on the ACT to quality attending tOSU main campus...?

Some of the posts I'm seeing here are the proof that standardized testing really isn't indicative of intelligence.

Just because you take a test doesn’t mean anything other than you can take a test. It’s not indicative of understanding life and the real world. Of course Universities base everything in it ..