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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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missed one thing ... not really revealed but just brought further into focus
  • corporate greed has no bounds ... why have a rainy day fund when you can increase stock price, why have a rainy day fund because the government will give us no strings money.


The "optimization of shareholder value uber alles" model has been under scrutiny/question for quite some time.

It may not be 100% cleaned up yet but it isn't accurate to portray the entire business community as blind to the dangers or doing nothing in this regard.
 
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The "optimization of shareholder value uber alles" model has been under scrutiny/question for quite some time.

It may not be 100% cleaned up yet but it isn't accurate to portray the entire business community as blind to the dangers or doing nothing in this regard.
look at those asking for handouts now and look at the stock buy backs... look at what they did with the Trillion Dollar tax cut a couple years ago....
 
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Had to run to local store the other day... scary stuff.. the various masks were amusing and eery
One lady had this face shield that extended from her hairline to top of chest
Another dude had this mask that looked like black psycho murderer masks
weird experience
 
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When this is over.,taxes on every level will go up, health care will cost morejobs will be lost forever, businesses large and small will be gone .blame and claw backs will be done.Congress Pass a comprehensive package bigger than you can imagine ..then go home and stay out of the way.
 
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These things were all already "revealed."

Some people just chose not to look.

I don't know that it's choosing not to look as much as looking and doing nothing. I'm guilty as fuck of that. Why? Busy working and trying to keep my own life in order and my wife happy. I also have a brother who's on the margins of society and has been a source of worry and a bit of a time sink. Also, I don't really know where to begin to fix all of society and I have a job that severely limits my ability to be political at all. I have often felt like Nero fiddling while Rome burned though as I've been able to be "comfortable" while knowing that we've been slowly moving towards a societal train wreck.

Had to run to local store the other day... scary stuff.. the various masks were amusing and eery
One lady had this face shield that extended from her hairline to top of chest
Another dude had this mask that looked like black psycho murderer masks
weird experience

Wish I had gone to your store. I was at the one where when I paused for two seconds to check the expiration date on a gallon of milk an impatient guy literally breathed down my neck as he rushed up right behind me to get his milk.
 
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look at those asking for handouts now and look at the stock buy backs... look at what they did with the Trillion Dollar tax cut a couple years ago....

I'm guessing I won't be getting any stock buy backs for the ongoing damage to my 403b, nor will anyone else who isn't already quite rich.
 
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The "optimization of shareholder value uber alles" model has been under scrutiny/question for quite some time.

It may not be 100% cleaned up yet but it isn't accurate to portray the entire business community as blind to the dangers or doing nothing in this regard.
Yes. Business comprises a very wide ranges of entities and, on average, the bigger and more monopolistic they get, the worse they're likely to behave. My Dad owned a fairly good-sized dental clinic that served a Medicare/working poor/middle class at most clientele at very reasonable prices. It provided him with a good living, but by no means made him rich even though he worked until about 75, and it also employed 20 or so people. I don't think that the millions of business like his are run by monsters. To me, much is a giant tragedy of the commons where incentives are all screwed up and people act somewhat rationally in response to them.

For example, at a micro-level that adds up when applied to tens of millions of us, a few big sources of economic inequality that start well before we get into the very rich zone include home mortgage interest deductions (need to have enough $ to "own") a home to get one, tax-preferred retirement accounts (need to have enough money to put some away in those and benefit more from them (up to limits) if your marginal income tax rate is higher), preferred tax rates on capital gains (many, maybe most, people don't have any), etc. I don't think I'm an especially bad guy and I don't think any of those things are good for a tax system that should be simple and based on multiple sources of revenue (i.e., sales, property, and income tax) with broad bases and low rates, but I sure as hell take my home mortgage deduction, stuff my 401 (k), and pay only what is required on capital gains because like any other human, I don't want to be a sucker, and I want to provide for me and mine as best I can. I also take advantage of preferential credit card deals (mileage bonuses, cash back ...) even though those are paid for by excessive vendor fees on business and exorbitant punishment of the less fortunate and less money-smart who don't pay the balance off every month.

The upper 1/10 of 1% are absolutely, on average, a sociopathic lot, but millions of guys like me (let's say the top 10-15%) like goosed up market returns and "comfort" enough to have not done more than reflect fretfully on it, and I don't know that that makes us awful or uncaring so much as just living our lives.
 
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Does anyone else feel like they’re in an episode of the X-files

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Increasingly starting to feel like 28 Weeks Later.

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