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Columbus Blue Jackets (Official Thread)

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Fungo Squiggly said:
Take it to PM or knock it the fuck off, guys.
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I really wish he would....

Literally every post this guy has responded to since Saturday has accused someone of being a pussy, a troll or some combination thereof....he was even hitting @Bucklion in the Indians thread about something he was clearly wrong about.


And here I thought the idiots only came out in the off-season when everyone's bored :biggrin:
 
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Okay, obviously Johansen just wants out at this point, or Overhardt wants him out, or whatever.

Davidson said:
“We then went to longer-0term contracts. We offered him $32 million over a six-year term. They don’t want it, and they came back with numbers much, much higher than that.
“We offered him an eight-year deal at $46 million, and they don’t like that, either. When you start talking about contracts that… are close to $50 million, I think our group has been very fair, in fact more than fair. But it’s nowhere near what they want. When it gets to that point, you start going ‘enough is enough here.’”
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http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com.../0917-johansen-turns-down-contract-offer.html
 
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BayBuck said:
Okay, obviously Johansen just wants out at this point, or Overhardt wants him out, or whatever.

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2014/09/17/0917-johansen-turns-down-contract-offer.html
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This situation sucks, but you become an agent's bitch when you cave to shit like this. Let him sit out so this never happens again.

He's a restricted free agent who has received no offer sheet. From anybody. He has no leverage here other than sitting on his ass collecting no money. And that's fine. Go ahead and do that. It's a 23-man roster and we've seen before with Rick Nash that one player isn't really all that important.
 
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This situation sucks, but you become an agent's bitch when you cave to [Mark May] like this. Let him sit out so this never happens again.

He's a restricted free agent who has received no offer sheet. From anybody. He has no leverage here other than sitting on his ass collecting no money. And that's fine. Go ahead and do that. It's a 23-man roster and we've seen before with Rick Nash that one player isn't really all that important.
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Oh, I know, he's only screwing himself, but it just pisses me off. This should have been such a simple deal to get done--CBJ offer $3.5 for a bridge deal, they counter at $4.5, sign the deal at $4M/2, boom, that's the highest a player in his position ever made, and he's all set to get really rich in 2 years and lead this team into the future... But this freaking agent and his young client may be poisoning the well: we've all seen how these situations can play out badly over the long term, and it doesn't have to be that way.
 
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BayBuck said:
Oh, I know, he's only screwing himself, but it just pisses me off. This should have been such a simple deal to get done--CBJ offer $3.5 for a bridge deal, they counter at $4.5, sign the deal at $4M/2, boom, that's the highest a player in his position ever made, and he's all set to get really rich in 2 years and lead this team into the future... But this freaking agent and his young client may be poisoning the well: we've all seen how these situations can play out badly over the long term, and it doesn't have to be that way.
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Unless he wants out. That's what Overhardt did with Kyle Turris and Phoenix a couple years back. Held him out until late November, signed a deal for a lot less than Turris wanted, but forced a trade to Ottawa.

Overhardt thinks he Drew Rosenhaus or Scott Boras. But he just ends up screwing his client and that's what is going to happen here.
 
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The agent strikes back....

In making case, Johansen’s agent stresses importance of top centers
Yesterday, Blue Jackets president John Davidson argued (and argued rather vehemently) that restricted free agent Ryan Johansen, as represented by agent Kurt Overhardt, had no right to be asking for the kind of money that an unrestricted free agent, or even an RFA with arbitration rights, had the right to ask for.

Davidson’s argument, essentially, was that the CBA gives the Jackets leverage over Johansen, and that the Jackets would be foolish not to use it.

“What are we supposed to do, give in when we have rights?” said Davidson. “It doesn’t make sense.”

But, obviously, the Johansen camp doesn’t see it that way. And today on TSN 1050 radio in Toronto, Overhardt put forth a number of his own arguments, while hammering home the importance of the position that Johansen plays.

“If you look at the game down the middle – you look at a team that won the Stanley Cup twice in the last three years (Kings) – you look at their depth down the middle,” said Overhart. “Well, why did they beat the teams that they beat? Unbelievable centers.

“Then you look what happened this summer. You saw Dallas upgrade at center. You saw Anaheim upgrade at center. You saw St. Louis upgrade at center. Why are they doing it? Well, you have to have two pivots (centers).

“And I don’t care if that player is a restricted player or whether that player is an unrestricted player. You’ve seen several players over the years who are still restricted, or finishing restricted deals, who have been paid.”
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Which helps show why this dispute has yet to be settled. Both sides have strong arguments to make, and both sides have dug themselves in. And without a tool like binding arbitration, the Johansen camp is left with just two options, other than accepting what the Jackets are offering.

1. Don’t play.

2. Seek out and sign an offer sheet.

On that second option, when asked how his client would respond to an offer sheet, Overhardt would only say, “Well, we’ll have to see.”

But before Jackets fans really start to worry, Overhardt also said that Johansen wants to be in Columbus, and that this whole thing is just a matter of banging out a deal.

Entire article: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...ens-agent-stresses-importance-of-top-centers/
 
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John Davidson on Ryan Johansen negotiations: 'It's extortion'

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From left, Jarmo Kekalainen and John Davidson have been on the attack in the media.

Another day, another red-hot barb from Columbus Blue Jackets brass directed at Kurt Overhardt, agent for restricted free agent forward Ryan Johansen. This time it came from team president John Davidson who put Overhardt on blast while addressing the media at the rookie tournament in Traverse City, Mich.

There is still a wide gap between what the Blue Jackets are offering – a reported two-year deal with an annual average of about $3.5 million -- and what Overhardt is demanding on Johansen's behalf, reportedly around $6.5 million. With training camps opening Thursday, time is running out to reach a deal before Johansen officially becomes a holdout.

If tensions were any higher in these negotiations, people would start paying to visit the observation deck. Perhaps it's already there as Davidson's outrage got turned up to 11 Tuesday night, just a day after general manager Jarmo Kekalainen also made public comments critical of Overhardt.

From The Hockey News:

“It makes no sense,” Davidson said [about Johansen's camp's demands]. “When you see numbers that are thrown at us, we shouldn't even respond. That's how bad it is. It's embarrassing. And if the kid sits out, he sits out. I wonder if the agent's going to pay him his money back that he's going to lose by sitting out.

“With the numbers they come back with…are so one-sided it's nonsensical. It's extortion is what it is. I don't make this stuff up. I've been in this league doing this for a long time now and this one here, it's baffling is what it is. This one's baffling. Baffling.”
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What's next is someone is going to have to blink. How long before that happens is anyone's guess, but this situation seems to be getting worse, not better as days turn to hours before the Blue Jackets welcome their players back for training camp.

Entire article: http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on...n-on-ryan-johansen-negotiations-its-extortion
 
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